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  • Westside snirt hits the fan

    My worst fears have materialized. The Cog is charging $10 per person/day or $100 for a season pass to ski, hike, or step foot on their property for any reason.
    https://www.thecog.com/winter-land-u...e-cog-railway/
    "The man who goes alone can start today; but he who travels with another must wait till that other is ready." - Henry David Thoreau

  • #2
    Not sure how "
    To preserve, promote, maintain, improve and protect the property for primitive recreational purposes" squares with their plans to open a hotel on the slopes of the Rockpile.
    Sponsored by Black Coffee and Breakfast Burritos.

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    • #3
      Not sure how "to p
      reserve, promote, maintain, improve and protect the property for primitive recreational purposes" squares with their plans to open a hotel on the slopes of the Rockpile.
      Sponsored by Black Coffee and Breakfast Burritos.

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      • #4
        I wonder what they think of the WMNF trail basically ending in their parking lot. Are they going to be all aggressive about that?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bucksaw View Post
          I wonder what they think of the WMNF trail basically ending in their parking lot. Are they going to be all aggressive about that?
          Officially, the WMNF trail stays in the forest, off the Cog's property, and ends at the WMNF trailhead parking lot a half mile downhill. The Forest Service was forced by Wayne Presby to relocate both the ART and Jewell Trail, when USFS shutdown Wayne's plan to run Cog Ski Trains to the summit and send skiers down via Tuckerman Ravine. We need USFS to open the trailhead parking lot and plow it for the winter!!!
          "The man who goes alone can start today; but he who travels with another must wait till that other is ready." - Henry David Thoreau

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          • #6
            It’s their property, they have every right to charge. The ART and lower lot are right there if one doesn’t want to spend the 10.00. Bring a shovel. What an entitled bunch some winter enthusiasts have become....

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            • #7
              After 7 years without publicly-publicly-anncounced closure by the property holder for at least 1 day per year, the public gains a right of way under New Hampshire law. This might be used to prevent charging for to access the WMNF.

              Also, there is a limit to the amount of land that can be posted for no trespassing, which is about 30 acres, if I remember correctly. This also might provide a legal angle to resist this move.
              Think snow, low winds, and sun!

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              • #8
                Friend paid the 10.00 this am. No big deal. They had the place to themselves in 6-8” of fresh on a solid base on a weekend. So the fee is a good thing for crowd control maybe. Keep all of the entitled cheapskates away.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by icelanticskier View Post
                  So the fee is a good thing for crowd control maybe.
                  $10/car had us carpooling from Fabyans, now it's $10 per head, as I understand it, or a $100 season pass.

                  Rog makes a good point, it may work as crowd control.
                  To get back to the untracked snow we formerly enjoyed, someone should enforce a $100-per-post charge for FaceBook and T4T trip report posts from the Blog-Free-Zone.

                  My self-imposed exile has ended my epic Westside story from T4T, no more daily conditions and avalanche stability reports from LFTGLY, but now the Snow Rangers are posting from Jacobs Ladder and Monroe Brook, LOL!?!

                  Originally posted by RCL1 View Post
                  Not sure how "
                  To preserve, promote, maintain, improve and protect the property for primitive recreational purposes" squares with their plans to open a hotel on the slopes of the Rockpile.
                  Hahaha. It's just another bs talking point. Reminds me of Cannon talking about preserving the backcountry recreational opportunities at Mittersill, before the land-swap with USFS; then they converted Mittersill into a ski race training center for Franconia Ski Club, and banned any uphill skinning. Any day now Wayne Presby will re-introduce the Ski Train, and that'll be the end of "primitive" all-access-pass for $10-per-day per person.
                  "The man who goes alone can start today; but he who travels with another must wait till that other is ready." - Henry David Thoreau

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                  • #10
                    I saw this and was thinking this could be their next move.

                    https://unofficialnetworks.com/2018/...tes-local/amp/

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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE]
                      Originally posted by Lftgly View Post
                      $10/car had us carpooling from Fabyans, now it's $10 per head, as I understand it, or a $100 season pass.
                      Ooh 10 per head even better!😀

                      My self-imposed exile has ended my epic Westside story from T4T, no more daily conditions and avalanche stability reports from LFTGLY, but now the Snow Rangers are posting from Jacobs Ladder and Monroe Brook, LOL!?!
                      I always appreciate the posts of pics with some prose but leaving names of places and line particulars out of it. Yeah I wish MWAC kept the forecasting to the old usuals. There’s more than enough attention paid all over the tiny range where we play from facefvck, instaspam and the like already.

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