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Mad Skier
01-28-2008, 02:48 PM
...because it doesn't sound good.:unhappyhiker:

http://madriverglenweather.blogspot.com/

RR
01-28-2008, 02:56 PM
yeech!

Not trying to shoot the messenger here, but that there is a nasty little buzzkill!

Mad Skier
01-28-2008, 03:13 PM
I know. I'm sorry. Maybe collectively we can ward off the rain.

Its in "live rust" or "Rust Never Sleeps" it starts raining at a Neil Young concert and he starts the audience in a chant of "No rain!! No Rain!!"

PWDR8S
01-28-2008, 04:09 PM
Time to pony up the ULLR supplications!

Praise ULLR and his masterful power and wisdom to bestow upon us the white fluffy and blessed snows!

Praise ULLR! http://timefortuckerman.com/photopost/data/774/1659worship.gif
Praise ULLR! http://timefortuckerman.com/photopost/data/774/1659worship.gif
Praise ULLR! http://timefortuckerman.com/photopost/data/774/1659worship.gif

Seeker
01-28-2008, 04:46 PM
I want you to know that you just ruined my day--possibly my entire week.

I'm coordinating an AMC BC workshop this weekend at Cardigan. I am soooo seriously not happy to read this.

Uuuuggghhhh...

davidhowland14
01-28-2008, 05:45 PM
how about a collective "not post this kind of stuff" agreement. We'll suffer individually. In the meantime, this might cheer some people up:

My backyard last night:
http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10080/normal_100_5474.JPG

Powder action shots:
http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10080/normal_100B5510.JPG

http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10080/normal_100B5511.JPG

http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10080/normal_100B5563.JPG

PWDR8S
01-28-2008, 05:53 PM
Love the puppy powder power shots! Thank you! Turned this thread frown upside down! :)

Mad Skier
01-28-2008, 07:06 PM
sorry guys. not trying to bring ya down. Just trying to rouse the troops.

Anyhow, not all is doom and gloom. Precip will be minimal tu/wed and fridays storm might have some freshies on the second half. Think snow. It'll be o.k. :skifemcool:

NtrentT
01-28-2008, 08:10 PM
Love this shot, your dog's expression is priceless
http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10080/normal_100B5511.JPG

My wife just told me thats what I look like when I stay out in the cold.......:doh:

RR
01-28-2008, 08:13 PM
David that's an awesome pooch surfing in the blackberry patch....great photo!

Love this shot, your dog's expression is priceless
http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10080/normal_100B5511.JPG

My wife just told me thats what I look like when I stay out in the cold.......:doh: :D I get that too... :doh:

PWDR8S
01-28-2008, 10:00 PM
sorry guys. not trying to bring ya down. Just trying to rouse the troops.

Anyhow, not all is doom and gloom. Precip will be minimal tu/wed and fridays storm might have some freshies on the second half. Think snow. It'll be o.k. :skifemcool:

Think altitude! ;)

Seeker
01-28-2008, 10:33 PM
Mega pooch reps!

http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10080/normal_100B5511.JPG

Thank you sir! :D

ride
01-29-2008, 10:50 AM
Nothing against JF- and I too read his blog, but I don't rely on "weather enthusiasts" for any plans. Real mets know that trying to predict more then a few days out is only just venturing a guess at best (JF gave is week long forecast prediction on Sunday). The weather guy I rely on and just asked what the skinny is looking like for the weekend said to wait until the other model runs come in this afternoon- esp. the ECMWF. They have been the closest to accurate this year.

RR
01-29-2008, 12:29 PM
I have been paying close attention to Henry Margusity's Meteorological Madness blog (http://www.accuweather.com/news-blogs.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&blog=meteomadness).

Combining his work-ups with the WU details lets me work on altitude based planning..

BTW, hang onto your hats tonight!

Credit: I don't remember who it was posted here about Henry....you know who you are: THANK YOU! :D

PWDR8S
01-29-2008, 12:32 PM
Looks like this may scratch my Cardigan plans for tomorrow. :rolleyes:

Credit: I don't remember who it was posted here about Henry....you know who you are: THANK YOU!
I double that! THANK YOU! It is a very interesting blog indeedy!

boardman
01-29-2008, 02:18 PM
Looks like this may scratch my Cardigan plans for tomorrow. :rolleyes:


I double that! THANK YOU! It is a very interesting blog indeedy!

Been a big Henry fan for some time. i know both tig and I have extolled his virtues on this site before. He and Scottie Braaten are my go-to guys. Things do not look dire. The rain might be minimal and cold air is supposed to wrap around this system. Long-range has been looking very favorable, with the NAO going negative in the coming days. Models showing a Feb 3-5 timeframe possibly significant system. Keep the faith, brothers and sisters! We've FAR surpassed anything we had last season to this point, and winter's not even halfway over. Remember what bounty February and March brought us last year! Ullr ahkbar!

davidhowland14
01-29-2008, 04:16 PM
And i have something else to turn this thread around:
http://forums.alpinezone.com/attachments/1217d1201627850-official-february-9-10-storm-discussion-post-12006-1201566336s.jpg

And i just made my reservations for a mt. wash ascent on the 10th. Go figure.

PWDR8S
01-29-2008, 05:00 PM
And i have something else to turn this thread around:
http://forums.alpinezone.com/attachments/1217d1201627850-official-february-9-10-storm-discussion-post-12006-1201566336s.jpg

And i just made my preservations for a mt. wash ascent on the 10th. Go figure.

preservations? What praytell are preservations? :p

Cliff
01-29-2008, 09:35 PM
I don't remember who it was posted here about Henry....you know who you are: THANK YOU! I triple that! Thank you. I read Henry's blog pretty much daily. Lets all join in with PWDR8S

Praise ULLR!
Praise ULLR!
Praise ULLR!

Think positive everyone we can make it through this quick thaw, we made it through the last one. And i just made my reservations for a mt. wash ascent on the 10th. Go figure. Thats awesome Dave!

davidhowland14
01-29-2008, 10:24 PM
I'm pretty psyched. I've been wanting to do this for years. I just hope I can get up to New Hampshire and up on the mountain. Although, given the choice, I'd rather have this storm than climb mount washington. Just so ULLR knows my preference.

http://www.theskijournal.com/images/news/38-large.jpg

Cliff
01-29-2008, 11:01 PM
I'm pretty psyched. I've been wanting to do this for years. I just hope I can get up to New Hampshire and up on the mountain. Although, given the choice, I'd rather have this storm than climb mount washington. Just so ULLR knows my preference. Yeah I bet you are. I am the same, I have been wanting to hike Washington in the winter for many years as well. I have hiked it many many times in the summer but never in the winter. I got all the gear for it last year but never got the chance. Plus I don't really have anybody willing to join me around here and I wouldn't want to do it alone. Anyway I hope your trip works out well and the weather cooperates for you so you can bring back some awesome pics.

boardman
01-30-2008, 11:02 AM
Good luck with the Mt. Washington climb, DH. Winter ascents of the rockpile are quite the enjoyable undertaking. It's every bit as challenging as peaks twice its size and more. A real gem right here in our backyard. Have a safe climb.

ride
01-31-2008, 08:47 AM
from NOAA:
.FRIDAY...SNOW...FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET IN THE AFTERNOON. SNOW AND
SLEET ACCUMULATION OF 6 INCHES OR MORE POSSIBLE. HIGHS IN THE UPPER
20S. SOUTHEAST WINDS 10 TO 20 MPH. CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION NEAR
100 PERCENT. WIND CHILL VALUES AS LOW AS 2 BELOW IN THE MORNING.
.FRIDAY NIGHT...FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET IN THE EVENING...THEN A
CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT. ADDITIONAL LIGHT SNOW
ACCUMULATION. NOT AS COLD WITH LOWS IN THE MID 20S. SOUTHEAST
WINDS 15 TO 20 MPH...BECOMING SOUTHWEST AFTER MIDNIGHT. CHANCE OF
PRECIPITATION NEAR 100 PERCENT.
.SATURDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH A CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS IN THE
MORNING...THEN MOSTLY SUNNY IN THE AFTERNOON. HIGHS IN THE LOWER
30S. NORTHWEST WINDS 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 MPH. CHANCE OF
SNOW 30 PERCENT.

RR
01-31-2008, 09:06 AM
I'll see your NOAA and raise you an MWO:
Forecast Discussion
High pressure will build in from the west today clearing fog and the skies above the summit. As the high builds in, winds will also be on a downward trend bottoming out overnight as the high crests and begins to slide east. This morning, blowing snow will still create some low visibilities as snow from yesterdays storm are tossed about but as winds decrease, things will begin to settle. Overnight, the high crests in allowing winds to continue to diminish and for skies to start with just a few clouds but as the night progresses, clouds will begin to thicken and lower once again in anticipation of the next system. The low, currently located over the panhandle of Texas, will make its way northeast today poised to move in early tomorrow morning. As the low moves in tomorrow, clouds will once again envelope the summit during the morning hours with a chance of snow showers. As the day progresses, a warm front tied to the low will lift through first. Temperatures will remain below freezing tomorrow so expecting mostly snow into the afternoon. The evening may see a mix will wait til tonights model runs before wording this. Snow may be heavy at times during the afternoon as well as the frontal band passes. Winds will also begin to ramp up as the high departs and the low approaches tomorrow. The wind chill advisory in effect this morning will expire early this afternoon as wind chills rise above 30 below. Wind chills today will be 35-45 below early rising to 15-25 below into the afternoon and evening then rising to 5-15 below by sunrise and to 0-10 above by sunset tomorrow.

Ryan Knapp
Staff Meteorologist

MWO Daily Forecast (http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/forecast.php?MWOSID=e4c96fd3ed5a24114577fe87deec50 da)

boardman
01-31-2008, 09:19 AM
I don't know guys, Henry's map is not looking so favorable:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p269/climbnboard/snow13008.png

http://www.accuweather.com/news-blogs.asp?partner=accuweather&blog=meteomadness

The good stuff is looking well north and west of VT/NH. Gonna be 40 degrees here in Boston today.

RR
01-31-2008, 09:34 AM
1. Altitude

2. Not all the data are in yet, This afternoons models will be more definitive.

3. I have a hunch that Mount Washington will be the shizzle this w/e

boardman
01-31-2008, 09:35 AM
But then again, there is this:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p269/climbnboard/iws4_430-1.jpg

Accompanying text:

The above graphic displays the amount of snow that the storm forecast to trek from the southern Plains to the Northeast's interior will produce. Places just north of the border of New York and Canada will top the snowfall total's list with over a foot of accumulation.

>This pic seems to show a lake effect band benefitting upstate VT, i.e., Jay Peak. I'm going to watch this closely! We'll know more late today and tomorrow.

boardman
01-31-2008, 09:37 AM
1. Altitude

2. Not all the data are in yet, This afternoons models will be more definitive.

3. I have a hunch that Mount Washington will be the shizzle this w/e


RE: #3 -- but when? If snow does fall up there, it's likely avy danger's going to be high at least through the weekend, I would think. But perhaps Wildcat may benefit. It's had a tendency to do that this season.

RR
01-31-2008, 09:45 AM
I have hopes for Cannon on Sunday, but I'll be working my form on groomers...

Re the Presis: The wind on this will plaster some snow into KR, but I think there will be less loading than most storms make.

Similarly, you could not get me into Airplane this w/e, but Pipeline would be more interesting as might Jeff's. GOS #3 might be worth a look, but crossing to it would scare the daylights out of me.

Top choices would be the GOST, Sherby and (ahem).

Over on the other side EB might be in...that would be of interest too.

ride
01-31-2008, 09:58 AM
If wx holds I'll be doing an up and down on the Sure-burn Sunday morning with the pooch...
Last year was her 1st time and her reaction & stoke after the first few turns is something I'll always remember:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/ridesr/977762114109_0_ALB.jpg

footlong
01-31-2008, 10:14 AM
As some others might already know, what started yesterday as rain and sleet in the am turned to snow squalls just before mid-day in Northern VT. While the accumulation here in Jericho wasn't great (@2") it sure beat more rain....

Today, it is just shy of 20 degrees and bluebird...with a bit of a stiff breeze...

And for all of those feeling down about the recent weather, dig back through the forum to this time last year when we were all moaning about how the season was over before it even started....then Valentine's Day came....it's STILL early... :)

yuckster
01-31-2008, 12:18 PM
RE: #3 -- but when? If snow does fall up there, it's likely avy danger's going to be high at least through the weekend, I would think.

Gusty E winds forecast before the frontal passage Friday. If you have a chance to go up during the event on Friday, the east slopes of Mount Washington may be worthwhile, as winds won't have had a chance to load things up yet. I wouldn't take a sick day just for this, though.

Left Gully is currently forecasted at low, probably with some january thaw surfaces exposed on its left side, and what comes in tomorrow may be heavy-sticky.

yuckster
01-31-2008, 12:26 PM
Similarly, you could not get me into Airplane this w/e, but Pipeline would be more interesting as might Jeff's. GOS #3 might be worth a look, but crossing to it would scare the daylights out of me.

Questions!
#1) What is the aspect on GOS#3... and what forecasted winds are you looking at?
#2) Would you be willing to do the Boote Spur approach and drop-in from the top? (Secondary question: do you know it well enough to find it from the top?)

RR
01-31-2008, 12:58 PM
Okay, some answers to follow...but I intend to be headed for Cannon on Sunday and will stay home working an inventory for a Spring trip on Saturday.
Questions!
#1) What is the aspect on GOS#3... and what forecasted winds are you looking at?
#2) Would you be willing to do the Boote Spur approach and drop-in from the top? (Secondary question: do you know it will enough to find it from the top?)

1- East aspect.
Winds during the bulk of the snowfall
SOUTHEAST WINDS 15 TO 20 MPH...BECOMING SOUTHWEST AFTER MIDNIGHT. CHANCE OF
PRECIPITATION NEAR 100 PERCENT.

followed by
NORTHWEST WINDS 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 MPH

so, East facing GOS gets to keep some but not all of its snow as it falls, southern Oakes to reap the bounty from GOS sourced wind transported during the event.

Then the NW winds load up GOS #1 and #2 like crazy, making Sunday a good day to stay away from the northern half of GOS

2- Nope, I like climbing what I intend to ski...Better to go right on in, ready to scurry across the runouts of #1 and #2. Smarter to test down low and use the slight ridge on climbers left to approach to the next test site in the gully. Prolly like to see good stability all the way up before dropping in...wind scour is there now*, so bonding may be good.

* I'd like to know what the rangers think is under it before committing.

yuckster
01-31-2008, 01:40 PM
Then the NW winds load up GOS #1 and #2 like crazy, making Sunday a good day to stay away from the northern half of GOS

Not disagreeing with you, but here's what puzzles me about this sort of statement. Left Gully and Hillmans both have a NE aspect. So from the prevailing winds you would expect that they don't get as much loading as the Chute through Sluice. Yet, why does it seem like they often get the most visible wind loading? Those plumes in their top-right sections, days after the storm has ended... There must be some sort of eddy effect up there, or something, or, the winds (which often have a northerly component) end up blowing snow into the south side where it collects.

Look at that fracture line that formed in the main bowl just before the Thaw. It was way deeper on the south side. EDITED TO ADD: it was probably reloaded below the fracture on the north side, by the time I got there...

boardman
01-31-2008, 01:43 PM
* I'd like to know what the rangers think is under it before committing.

But they don't regularly patrol there, and what they THINK could be entirely different from what's actually up there! :eek:

yuckster
01-31-2008, 02:09 PM
But they don't regularly patrol there, and what they THINK could be entirely different from what's actually up there! :eek:

Indeed. Assume that what's under it is the same highly-variable slab soup that has accumulated in Tucks. There have been some weak interfaces deposited in Tucks within the last 2 weeks - two or three different events that dropped extremely low density unconsolidated snow and then packed in windslab on top of that.

boardman
01-31-2008, 02:18 PM
Henry has updated his map:

http://www.accuweather.com/news-blogs.asp?partner=accuweather&blog=meteomadness

Still showing a mixed bag for all of VT/NH. But that could bode well for higher altitude peaks, I reckon. I've driven up to Killington in solid rain, only to find all snow from the access road up. I'm guessin' it all depends on how warm that air aloft is. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

yuckster
01-31-2008, 02:24 PM
But that could bode well for higher altitude peaks, I reckon.

My advice: Don't make too many assumptions about either altitude or latitude, this time around. 1) The NAM that I looked at yesterday showed the 850mb, zero celsius contour oriented due north/south all the way to the vermont canadian border as it sweeps through. 2) I think the reason we have so much sleet in the forecast this time is the models are showing a lot of warm air overrunning the surface cold air that is currently in place; when I looked at the discussion several days previously, the models were showing warm air all the way up to the 850mb level (which is typically about a mile high)

It probably takes a peak the height of mount washington to make up for that effect.

I'm going to the place that I already have season passes for... not going out of my way further north for this one. Still thinking of maybe going to Mt Wash on Sunday with Lisa...

tig
01-31-2008, 02:33 PM
Should at any rate load on nw winds on climbers right. The day before the thaw we were up there had west winds (6 jan).

Here's a g-earth image which shows these gullies as well as those in the GOS..perhaps it helps framing the discussion...

http://tig.nareau.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/westonmwa.jpg

RR
01-31-2008, 03:49 PM
The bowl shape of TR is very different from the shape at GOS. GOS has a similar wall on the North but the long wall down to the Southern end is fairly straight and increasiongly shallow, both in height and angle.

The NW winds do create a swirl that dumps on the northern wall and then gets drawn all the way down to the snowfields at the southern end.

#3 sits in a slight prominence, but hasn't enough differentiation from the long wall to create serious eddies such as those that dump all that snow into left in TR

RR
01-31-2008, 04:02 PM
Interesting overlap of the Accuweather Snow and Ra*n maps for tomorrow:
http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10040/FriFeb1__Snow.JPGhttp://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10040/FriFeb1_Rain.JPG

yuckster
01-31-2008, 04:06 PM
Burlington has updated their forecasts and added more detail. It now looks like northeastern vermont may get more snow out of the mix than southern areas... Look good for jay peak. hmm.

boardman
01-31-2008, 04:11 PM
Burlington has updated their forecasts and added more detail. It now looks like northeastern vermont may get more snow out of the mix than southern areas... Look good for jay peak. hmm.

I'm still heading into thei weekend with Jay as a plan. I'll wait to see what's actually falling tomorrow, of course, but that's my starting point, I think.

tig
01-31-2008, 04:23 PM
Burlington has updated their forecasts and added more detail. It now looks like northeastern vermont may get more snow out of the mix than southern areas... Look good for jay peak. hmm.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/btv/html/StormTotalSnow/StormTotalSnow.shtml

7.8 at the town of jay. Dosent say how much sleet/rain tho

RR
01-31-2008, 04:31 PM
...

The NW winds do create a swirl that dumps on the northern wall and then gets drawn all the way down to the snowfields at the southern end....
...I wonder how tight the woods are on the southern side and eastern ridge of Slide Peak??? A lot of snow must be blowing into those trees!

RR
02-01-2008, 07:54 AM
Morning update Friday, Feb 1 - Compare Snow vs Ra!n
http://www.techsourceconsultants.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10040/normal_compareFeb1.JPG
Once we get to 2PM, precipitation changes to a mix of sleet and freezing rain. Model cross sections are showing a layer of warmth that is simply too deep to support any snow after around 2 PM and thus the NWS forecast is somewhat misleading. Temperatures may eventually climb to above freezing levels at the surface briefly Saturday morning but should fall back to freezing or slightly below by mid-morning. Along with the slight drop in temperatures comes the return of snowfall which will be of the more wet variety at the base of MRG and more powdery at the summit.
I see the western Whites as following this model, but later in the day. Freezing levels will be dropping deeper into the atmosphere after dark, Moosilauke to Cannon will see about the same initial snowfall, get some rain, but more snow after the rain, maybe above 2-3 inches by Saturday mid-morning.

That's my story...

I hope it works out so well.... :rolleyes:

rockhead
02-01-2008, 08:03 AM
doesn't look tooo bad i guess... where do you get those projections?

RR
02-01-2008, 08:08 AM
doesn't look tooo bad i guess... where do you get those projections?I start here (http://www.accuweather.com/news-blogs.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&blog=meteomadness) and then use the Maps pulldown menu to get the Snowfall or Rainfall maps.

tig
02-01-2008, 08:20 AM
on NAM is quite warm...look for light blue region as 32F...this at 5000 ft.
http://weather.unisys.com/nam/4panel/nam_850_4panel.gif.

Everyone, including washington seems like will get some rain.

PWDR8S
02-01-2008, 08:37 AM
Woah! Trippy colors! Thought I had a flashback just now. :p

Yup.... everyone will get some of the wet... it all depends upon when it starts up and when the cold follows in behind to stop the carnage.

I might check on Cardigan tomorrow out of curiousity.

RR
02-01-2008, 08:47 AM
...I might check on Cardigan tomorrow out of curiousity.Stubborness has served us well in the past....then again sometimes we just get served :rolleyes:

I suggest that softshells won't be the order of the day today, but they should be fine for Saturday and Sunday.

Hey, Tig, that's a good montage. It looks like we are all looking at solid data.

Question is, "Be stubborn and go skiing on Superbowl Sunday, or go ice climbing instead?"

I just got new Sabretooths and could readily agree to some <=WI3 adventures and warily agree to >=WI4.

boardman
02-01-2008, 08:56 AM
Here's Accuweather.com's latest snowfall map, which has changed considerably from yesterday, and sure looks favorable for northern VT, especially that little NW corner where a certain little ski mountain sits:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p269/climbnboard/frijpg.jpg

RR
02-01-2008, 09:09 AM
Here's Accuweather.com's latest snowfall map, which has changed considerably from yesterday, and sure looks favorable for northern VT, especially that little NW corner where a certain little ski mountain sits:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p269/climbnboard/frijpg.jpgWhew...It looks to me that NH areas from Gunstock and North will do well out of this, with Balsms and the Kitty scoring bigtime.

I had been thinking it would not be so gloomy as folks were saying, as the ra!n was never going to get above 1/4 inch and would be followed by more snow anyway.

That model indicates a fortuitous intrusion, very likely terrain based....praise ULLR!

yuckster
02-01-2008, 10:52 AM
Scott Braaten is very pessimistic about this one. Thinks that after the changeover to mixing, many summits will not see sleet because they are too high into the warm layer and you need droplets falling thru a 2000 foot cold layer in order to refreeze. Summits could see more freezing rain than valleys... maybe lots of it.

RR
02-01-2008, 01:57 PM
from Romer's site:
http://www.letstalkweather.com/cgi-bin/radpowder?zipcode=78909&width=480&height=360

boardman
02-01-2008, 02:34 PM
MWO forecast was calling for all snow on the summit, but a period of changeover down lower. Latest on Accuweather is calling for a pretty widespread area of 3-6" (their map has changed yet again). Spoke to someone in the Lake Placid area earlier, and it was sleet there. Out here in Ayer (35 mi. west of Boston), it's been sleet for a couple hours, with some accumulation, but it's just now changed over to rain.

RR
02-01-2008, 02:52 PM
it may seem like grasping at straws but something weird is going on in central NH.

http://images.intellicast.com/WeatherImg/RadarLoop/hfd_None_anim.gif

I have been watching all morning and the area North of Concord has stayed resolutely Blue! (as of 2:56PM)

PWDR8S
02-01-2008, 02:57 PM
it may seem like grasping at straws but something weird is going on in central NH.

http://images.intellicast.com/WeatherImg/RadarLoop/hfd_None_anim.gif

I have been watching all morning and the area North of Concord has stayed resolutely Blue! (as of 2:56PM)

Oh... the explaination is simple. I am here and ULLR is smiling upon me. :D
I have given much to appease the almighty ULLR. OK... enough of the c0ckyness.... it's still snowing here in Sunapeeland and pretty good clip too! :D


Drats... now that I mentioned something about it, things will change!
Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! http://timefortuckerman.com/photopost/data/774/1659worship.gifULLR please forgive my errant ways.

boardman
02-01-2008, 04:26 PM
Oh... the explaination is simple. I am here and ULLR is smiling upon me. :D
I have given much to appease the almighty ULLR. OK... enough of the c0ckyness.... it's still snowing here in Sunapeeland and pretty good clip too! :D


Drats... now that I mentioned something about it, things will change!
Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! Anti jinx! http://timefortuckerman.com/photopost/data/774/1659worship.gifULLR please forgive my errant ways.

man, N. Conway seems to be holding on as well. The Kitty might be giddy!

jumpturn
02-01-2008, 05:11 PM
Man, if you lived in SF, 4-6 hours of driving would be routine...

Still snowing at Le Massif from yesterday -- and the real storm is only starting to kick in now. They are calling for 40 cm or more tonight and continuing snow all day Saturday, which means two powder days here.

The snow conditions look great for 4.5 m of packed powder, but why bother today ... Should make for fine base ....

Here is the beta on where to stay: Aux Portes du Soleil (http://www.auxportesdusoleil.com/). This is run by a Swiss guide and his Canadian wife. Nicholas is from Champéry (http://www.portesdusoleil.com/index.php?station=Champ%E9ry), one of the villages in the Portes du Soleil (http://www.portesdusoleil.com/).

Snow forecast for Le Massif 2008-02-02
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Summit Lodge, Le Massif, 2 pm, February 1, 2008
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PWDR8S
02-01-2008, 05:15 PM
Sunapee update (Central west NH for those that don't know):

Superfine granulated sugar... lots coming down but no real depth accum..... an inch since it started back around 10AM. :rolleyes: This is the stuff that falls between the cracks of your deck and never really piles up on the deck.

Should make for very interesting pseudo~micro~corn skiing tomorrow at Cardigan. :eek:

tig
02-01-2008, 05:46 PM
http://sirocco.accuweather.com/nx_mosaic_400x300c/SIR/inmaSIRUS_.gif

icelanticskier
02-01-2008, 06:45 PM
go saddleback!
rog

jdw
02-01-2008, 07:06 PM
From the Jay Website (read all the way down - nothing too exciting, but the last line killed me...) )

**Winter Storm Warning in Effect**
Wind is swirling in anticipation of the incoming storm. 1-2" on the ground, but we've switched over to mixed as of 3:15pm. We also expect this mixed to turn more toward freezing rain for a period between 9-11p tonight before turning back to snow as we head into the am. We could see another several inches on the back-end of this storm but conditions will, nonetheless, be affected.
Please check back as we'll be updating this area as developing information becomes available. High winds may also affect upper mountain lifts and we’ll have an update on that in the morning too.

If you are driving to Jay Peak this evening, please drive carefully you bad ass.

jumpturn
02-01-2008, 08:44 PM
Current forecasts are calling for 58 cm at Le Massif and 62 cm at Mont Ste Anne Friday night!! :D :D :D :skicool: We're in the zone!

RR
02-01-2008, 09:17 PM
and ever so sweetly...rubbing it in :D

Have a great trip...plenty of those marvy pix, please?!?

jumpturn
02-02-2008, 06:10 AM
Morning web sites claim:

62 cm for le Massif (forecast 50)
25 cm for Mont St Anne (forecast 48)

Le massif landed right in the center of the red area, which crossed both side of the St Lawrence. Mont St Anne on the trailing edge of the red.

Got to go, go, go .... :D :D :skicool: :skifemcool: :skiplow: :D :D

boardman
02-02-2008, 11:11 AM
The Kitty is reporting 7" and it looks like all lifts but one are on hold because of the wind. So tomorrow might still hold many untracked lines on the upper mountain.

boardman
02-02-2008, 11:19 AM
More comedy from Jay Peak. I LOVE the honesty here! Bravo!

Should I come you ask? Well, you need to be your own skier, your own snowboarder today but I will say the following: The wind is blowing hard enough, right now, to keep most upper mountain lifts on delay out of the gate and forecasters aren't calling for them to slow down any time soon--maybe by late morning. Surface conditions, where the groomers have made a pass or two, will be ok but the woods will be titanium. That's, to say, firm.

If you plan on heading to the mountain today, please check back to this area as the snowphones are updated at 8am and 4pm, approximately, only.

If you're headed to the mtn today, despite the less than stellar set up, let me be the first to say, way-to-go.

boardman
02-02-2008, 11:24 AM
Killington's website is claiming 10" from last night's storm. I'm a little skeptical.

tig
02-02-2008, 12:56 PM
MRG has been under-reporting this season i'd say, so prolly 6 inches fell on the spine. Jay and Burke didnt get much, a total bust on most predictions..

tig
02-02-2008, 01:05 PM
The Kitty is reporting 7" and it looks like all lifts but one are on hold because of the wind. So tomorrow might still hold many untracked lines on the upper mountain.

Wont it all blow into Carter Notch with prevaling 100mph NW winds?

More generally I'm trying to understand the nature of this snow. Did most of it load post the passing of the low or before? Would seem the Kitty might have got loaded on SE winds prior to the passing of the low, but you would have thought it would have been more sleet at that point..

icelanticskier
02-02-2008, 02:44 PM
nw winds would have blown it all into jackson/ chatham. great base building/conserving snow. maine did ok as well but, that wind is nuking for sure. it'll be interesting to see what happens this tues/wed, saddleback/loaf could be the call for enough cold air.
jays report is great but, people will still show up in droves cuz it's jay peak and it always snow there and is the place to be.
rog

Cat in January
02-02-2008, 04:04 PM
I called Pinkham Notch this am and the weather report had the max temp at the summit and base for the storm below freezing. Some rain was reported at the base. 5-7" with like 1.5" of water content. The wind was forcast to blow hard from the west (good for loading Tucks up I would imagine). Wildcat had suspended operations due to wind. I plan to drive up for $20 Sunday pm tix-if anyone wants to tag along from Portland.

Hmm Wednesday snow event at Sugarloaf...:cooldog:

RR
02-05-2008, 02:39 PM
When Cannon is good enough...it's pretty darn nice!

Way to score some tracks :cooldog:

RR
02-06-2008, 10:21 AM
From MRG's email just now:
8-10" on the ground already this morning, and mo re expected today on top of the 4-6"yesterday and we had us a nice little POWDER DAY TODAY! The new moist snow coupled with a gradual cool down from yesterday's warm temps will have Gen. Stark Mtn. skiing very, very nicely today. After days of scary weather forecasts we have dodged the bullet and now we hear another 7-14" or maybe more is on tap for tomorrow while another big storm winds up for a potential weekend hit. Let's hope they are right this time, because if they are we are in store for the best skiing since December! Coverage on the mountain is excellent, and it should be a sweet day of skiing. Lets keep our fingers and toes crossed so we can set up for a well deserved stretch of stellar skiing.

Mad Skier
02-06-2008, 11:10 AM
This horrible thread gets some happy in it after all.:)

RR
02-12-2008, 09:49 PM
did you drop Snows of Karathras?