Last natural snow?

[M@]

Is tuckerman typically the last natural snow left in all of... well, all of New Hampshire? Maybe all of New england?

Is there natural snow anywhere else (NH, New Eng, East of the Divide) right now? (there is in TUX as I type this)

M@ :ducttape:

[Bannick]

There is usually snow/ice in a series of caves not far from my house here in Toronto. Not rideable and very dirty. I haven't been for a few years. It is always fun brining some of it up out of the caves and making a little snowman on the side of the Bruce Trail.

From what frank has been saying the Chic Chocs most likely hold a bit of snow.

B :snowboarding:

[Frankontour]

I've seen a lot of snow on late july in Ste-Agathe in the Laurentians (1h from MTL). Ok, this is not in New England and forget about skiing there, it's probably just where they dump the snow when there's too much in the streets.

Except that, I don't think that in New England (+ southern Quebec) there is a mountain that holds the natural snow like Mt Washington with Tucks. About the winter snowmaking one, I don't think Killington can beat Tucks, but la Reserve could probably if they were doing snow like on Superstar.

This place is the best to hold the snow that I've seen with my own eyes. (in southern QC of course) La Réserve is not a snowmaking mountain, but the Loup-Garou trail passes in a wide canyon of about 300' high on right and 150' high on left. (looking from the base). The trail is also canyon stiled and the left side is up to 30' higher than the middle of the trail in one place. North East exposure. They just do enough snowmaking to fill enough the canyon to provide a blue run. So in april, it looked like there was not so much snow remaining, but it was skiable up to ± june 10, this year. If they were doing serious snowmaking into that, it would be skiable up to july without problem. There is never sun in the canyon until late april and up to late may, there is just 2-3 hours of sun in the canyon in a day, so it melts very slowly, especially as the place have a really weird climate, always quite colder than in Mt Garceau just beside and almost always cloudy. (generally, it's sunshine over Mt Garceau and big clouds over la Reserve, 5 miles away !!!)

[Frankontour]

Of course, it will never be natural like Tucks !!

This is a pic who describe enough well what I meant about the sun. It was 4PM on may 16 and the sun was already gone for a while in the canyon.

The pic shows the lower part of the canyon, which is skiable so late. There is a big visual illusion on this place. It looks to be 300-400 feet long on this pic... but what we see is about 1000' long. (the trees on left are huge). Sad that it's not steeper, but a blue run into june is not so bad ! :D

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus/messages/2508/2594.jpg

For the melting rate, you can see a complete tour at :

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus/messages/2508/2590.html?1057094725

..... and yes, I know I would quite prefer the steep Tucks, but it's a matter of distance ! :( :( :(

[elwood]

I don;t think there is any snow in VT. Just what melted and ran off into the lake.

[Mumster]

M@:
Is there natural snow anywhere else (NH, New Eng, East of the Divide) right now? (there is in TUX as I type this) M@ :ducttape: :ma:
I'm told there was still snow on "Jefferson" last weekend. Is that one of the next mountains over?

[loafnut]

there are some "ice caves" in maine, in the allagash specifically. I've never been but supposedly they hold snow/ice year round. they are also many miles from the nearest logging road, which is at least days travel from the nearest paved road.

[skistorm]

Just did an overnight hike trough some of the Presidentials. Jefferson still has a somewhat decent size patch of snow on its east side visable from the Mt. Adams area and the Six Husbands trail going up Jefferson. I also thought I saw a smaller patch on another part of Jefferson from several miles away, but it could have just been rock.

[Bannick]

Man, all this talk of summer snow is killing me!!!! Kinda makes me wish I was back out west hiking the glacier at Black Tusk. Lots of summer snow there. Have even had a powder day in august. Is two inches in august considered a powder day???....sigh.

B :snowboarding:

[Skilasnow]

I think 2 " in August counts as a powder day unless you are South of the equator

[Bannick]

I am about ready to strap on the board head down the local toboggan hill by my mum's house and carve up the turf.
I was actually doing a bit of figgerin in my head and with my time spent living out west I have now snowboarded in every month except for July and october. Hmmmmm a new quest.

B :snowboarding: