Your least favorite ski area?

[elwood]

Not enough action on the board for me lately...

So the antithesis of my last popular question, What is your least favorite ski area?????


When I lived in Chicago, I had the pleasure of skiing a bump called Wilmot. (http://www.wilmotmountain.com/) I think it was built on an old landfill, and it has about 250 feet of vertical. I don't think I ever took one turn there, and probably skied there 100 times.

[DMC]

Mountain Creek.... I hate the place...
Followed by Camelback...

But I ride Hunter in NY every weekend so what the F do I know...

Hunter RULES!!! Catskill extreme!!!!

[Castlerock]

Ahhh my favorite rant.

Sunday River is the quintessential modern ski area and an anathema to all real skiers!

1.) RT 26 is a nightmare of logging trucks, no passing zones and Mainers in jalopys blocking the road.

2.) 2340' Vert....Hah!
Maybe 1000 contiguous vertical.

3.) 3140' summit. That isn't even high enough to get above the deciduous forest.

3.) 155 annual inches of snow.
I get about as much in my back yard.

4.) Terrain: Lame
Steepest, longest, widest, what the hell kind of stat is that? Making the trail wider makes it better?

Ahhh but the condos! The skier visits! And the icemaking!

[NHski]

I will have to disagree with you castlerock. Sure the drive sucks on 26, the snow isn't all that much, but if you know the secret stashes, it is alright. Celestial & flying monkey are okay tree runs and the local cut tree runs are great. Plus it is very easy to get away from the crowds.

[CHUCK]

Any ASC mountain, espeacially in NH. If you want the pow at a resort go to vermont. I'm not a big fan of Loon either.
peace chuck
ps hope I don't offend anyone, I just hate waiting in lift lines

[Jolly J]

I don't think I have a least favorite. As long as I'm skiing I'm pretty content with life. This time of year sucks....especially when I know there are still turns to be had but the pocketbook is saying no....

[DMC]

After last years stellar snow fall... I've gotten spoiled with riding OB.. When the lines started to melt in the woods and I was forced to ride "on trail" - I got bored quick!!!!!

[elwood]

CHUCK:
Any ASC mountain, espeacially in NH. If you want the pow at a resort go to vermont. I'm not a big fan of Loon either.
peace chuck
ps hope I don't offend anyone, I just hate waiting in lift lines CHUCK, Any ASC mountain would include Steamboat. You can't possibly include Steamboat in that list of bad mountains. Steamboat has some of the fluffiest powder in CO (dubbed Champagne Powder (TM)), and the place has such a laid back atmosphere. Hard to beleive ASC owns it, huh?

[CHUCK]

Forgot about that, any ASC on the east coast!!
peace chuck

[Mumster]

elwood:
What is your least favorite ski area?????
Any area that is closed. :D

[Skilasnow]

Killington! Too much uphill capacity, never waited much in line but then its always crowded on the way down. I feel like I'm skiing a bowling alley. It certainly has its good points from a skiing POV, but at over $60, no thanks.

[Castlerock]

Hey NHSki!

Go west young man! (Western NE for a start) Northern VT will spoil you and will eliminate any desire you have to go back to the River. The mountains are tall, not wide. I'd rather have one chair for 2000ft than two chairs for 1000ft.

And the woods! There is real tree skiing in them thar hills.

They get twice as much natural snow at Sugarbush than the River. 130 inches more a year!

But between the Mad River Valley and anything east of the Connecticut river (except the Presis of course). I'll take VT.

Get out of the Les Otten mind set...(I still don't know how he got into the Redsox ownership group)

[elwood]

NHSki,

I agree with Castlerock. Come over the border and ski with Dr. P and I at Jay Peak.

[Skilasnow]

You gotta give Cannon the nod for NH, but then, it's only spitting distance from Vermont anyway :D

[NHski]

I have been to Stowe & Jay over in Vermont, and agree they are better for steeps, pow and all. I am just saying the river hardly sucks. I can think of a lot worse.

[NHski]

Maybe we could try to coordinate a day that we could all meet up somewhere in VT and rip it together next winter. I am open to anywhere.

[NHski]

Speaking of Cannon, I was hiking up the kinsman ridge the other day up to cannon and i noticed a gladed trail, that i found out is going to be open next year at cannon, even if it isn't, it can still be accessed. Looks like a good trail with some steep sections. I guess it has been ski for a couple of years now.

[Skilasnow]

I think they started cutting that glades trail last year to be open this coming up season. It looks pretty sweet, really long... close to 3/4 of the total tramway vertical cannon trail map (http://www.cannonmt.com/trailmap.html)

[Castlerock]

I have taken note of a bunch of backcountry Cannon talk over the last few months. I am intrigued by the place. Who on the board are the Cannon locals?

[Castlerock]

HI NHSki,

Yes there are worse than the River but of all the "major" areas, it seems to be the weakest when it comes to skiing, and the strongest when it comes to marketing and real estate.

Last year with my kids of prime learn to ski age, my wife and I bought a ski house and had to choose a home area. The constraints were, we wanted "walk to ski" (kids), "good skiing" (Selfish), "three bedroom." (bring friends) and affordable.

Many folks suggested the River, and as I figured out my priorites and ruled it out, I came up with the rant.

Come on over to Sugarbush, this next season. The skiings great!

P.S. We looked at Jay, (I love freshies) but the real estate situation there is wierd. Expensive new junk (no quality) and 30 year old beat up condos.

[HeyBC]

Remember the question...least favorite place to ski. I don't know that there is one as long as you go and strap on the board(s). Also, it depends on your attitude and that of others.

Shawnee Mountain is the first stop off I-80 which just loads up with bus trips from N. Jersey and NYC Metro. The concept is how many tickets can the mountain sell and how many skis/ boards can we rent put on the mountain today. Combine a bunch of beginners (most with no lessons),no etiquette, and a NYC metro mentality...Yuch.

Had some fantastik times this winter at Camelback, Big Boulder/ Jack Frost, Blue Mountain, Hunter, and Wyndham, all within striking distance of NYC metro. The further away, the better.

84 to go...

[Mumster]

HeyBC
[QB] Shawnee Mountain is the first stop off I-80 which just loads up with bus trips from N. Jersey and NYC Metro. The concept is how many tickets can the mountain sell and how many skis/ boards can we rent put on the mountain today. Combine a bunch of beginners (most with no lessons),no etiquette, and a NYC metro mentality...Yuch.
[QB]Now that you mention it, HeyBC, I've been known to say that "I'd draw the line" at going to Shawnee. Fortunately, I've never had to test this out ...Had a close call early Dec 2002, when it was the first area to open in the Poconos, but we went up to Hunter.

The other areas are all ok - you can't be TOO fussy when you live south of the Poconos... :skifemcool:

[M@]

My "Least Favorite" ski area is Waterville Sally. I've never skiied there though. The wife and I setup baby sitting and drove up that way only to find the parking lots all full. SO we pulled the "We're dropping off" trick to maybe find a money-spot. Getting closer to the mountain I saw the longest lift line I've ever seen in my life. So we went to a movie and hit the Woodstock BrewPub instead. Excellent choice for us, but I'll never ski sally. Almost had her talked into Cannon, but I spend the whole time on the front-4/5 when I go and she can't stand it.

M@

[Skilasnow]

M@:
My "Least Favorite" ski area is Waterville Sally. I've never skiied there though. The wife and I setup baby sitting and drove up that way only to find the parking lots all full. SO we pulled the "We're dropping off" trick to maybe find a money-spot. Getting closer to the mountain I saw the longest lift line I've ever seen in my life. So we went to a movie and hit the Woodstock BrewPub instead. Excellent choice for us, but I'll never ski sally. Almost had her talked into Cannon, but I spend the whole time on the front-4/5 when I go and she can't stand it.

M@ Not much there... but St Patricks day is 2 for $17 and if it falls on a weekday it might not be over-crowded, my #1 complaint about most places. They do have a class race course and a little chair at the peak which, while not offering any great steepness or vertical is good for power laps.

Ragged has a great new mid mountain. Power trees ala MRG and less than 2 hours from Boston. I made it there last season after one of the really big dumps and had a BLAST in 2 feet of almost fresh, but bring your lunch, the cafeteria SUCKS. :o and only one spot to get :beermug:

ps should of gone to Cannon, but I hope you saw a good movie :D

[NHski]

Castlerock, you are making a good pitch at getting me over to sugarbush. I have heard great things from other people as well. All i need now is a place to crash. You willing to put up myself, girlfriend and a golden? LOL

[Bannick]

If I had my druthers I would be at Mt.Baker, Hood or Jay or something but as long as I have a board strapped to my feet with something "snowlike" under it to slide on I will pretty much ride anything pretty much anywhere.

Oh and castlerock.....I have one of them tilty tables and will travel to provide chalet/cabin designs as long as I get to crash there a few times to test the product. There must be lots of property around Jay to build something on.

:snowboarding:

[Mumster]

Bannick:
If I had my druthers I would be at Mt.Baker, Hood or Jay Hi Bannick :snowboardstyle: :

Have you hiked up above the racing fields at Mt. Hood? I'm tempted to hike up this summer since I'll be there anyway. I've seen people hiking above the lifts, towards the top of the mountain with skis. Do you have direct experience with this? What is it like?

[HeyBC]

Mumster...your right we can't be too fussy S. of New England....good news is we ahve a few options within a two hour drive. I have to say that Wyndham was one of the best this past winter, however the Catskills is a long drive (200 miles, a 3 hour drive.

Can anybody give me an opinion on Elk Mountain?

83 to go...

[Castlerock]

Bannick, Someday I'll build a home in the mountains but with three very young kids, slopeside was the priority. (as well as a budget) The new on mountain stuff at Jay was ridiculously overpriced for what you got (in terms of finish, appliances, fixtures, etc).

And Mumster, I climbed Mt, Hood in December a few years ago. It is an easy hike. In fact I commented to my fellow climbers that at Tucks the climbing is much steeper. (we were roped etc) But you should have crampons. You wouldn't want to slide into one of the open fumaroles.

We were on a pure climbing trip (practicing self arrest, ropes etc) and It was killing me not to have skis for the way down.

[DMC]

HeyBC:
I have to say that Wyndham was one of the best this past winterNo offense... But Wyndham is where I take my 70 year old Dad to ski... Flat and mellow...

I ride Hunter... Better terrain without a doubt..
Maybe the lodge isnt as good but to me it's about the terrain... Nothing at Windham even comes close to Hunters West Side.. And as long as you don't go on a big holiday weekend the crowds are not as bad as ledgend makes them out to be...

Come to Hunter one weekend and ride with me... You'll never go to Windham again...

Just my .02

[BladeGirl]

I've pretty much given up Loon & Waterville for reasons discussed: why face the crowds and cost when Cannon is just as close, & better in every way? Also not a fan of Killington. Great terrain, but way too expensive & crowded, not to mention the official attitude (of both the majority of NYC-based skiers and staff) seems to border on hostile. That said, I'd take any day :skifemcool: at any ski mountain over a day at work!

-BG

[Mumster]

HeyBC:
Can anybody give me an opinion on Elk Mountain? Love it. :lips: It's the best place in the Pocono region - though technically in the Endless Mountains, not Poconos.

1. By far, the least crowded
2. A bit more snow
3. I love it's fall line
4. A lower packing density of beginners and total morons
5. They always leave some slopes ungroomed - usually at least 2 mogul runs.
6. It's just nice.

The only negative is that the chairs are slow and the commute is longer.

[Mumster]

DMC:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by HeyBC:
[qb] I ride Hunter... Better terrain without a doubt..Come to Hunter one weekend and ride with me... Just my .02 DMC:
I've had a couple good trips to Hunter too - the secret is to be on skis by opening because it gets jammed early. Never been to Wyndham.

[Mumster]

Castlerock:
Mumster, I climbed Mt, Hood in December a few years ago. It is an easy hike. In fact I commented to my fellow climbers that at Tucks the climbing is much steeper. (we were roped etc) But you should have crampons. You wouldn't want to slide into one of the open fumaroles.Castlerock:
Thanks. I'll tell my family that an expert has recommended the experience - ;)
From what I could see during my last trip, I'd agree that Mt Hood isn't nearly as steep a climb as TR. :happyhiker:

[DMC]

Yes in deed - get there early and ski the front then when the West Side opens go there imediatly..
Then during lunch hit the front... After lunch hit the east side for the sun...

Unless theres tons of snow then just take 'em off and hike into the woods... Which is what we did all last season...
Hunter OB 2002 (http://www.powderhound.org/cgi/imgtool.cgi?year=2002&page=album&name=OBHunter_&type=jpg)
Hunter OB 2003 (http://www.powderhound.org/cgi/imgtool.cgi?year=2003&page=album&name=OBHunter_&type=jpg&offset=1&bgcolor=white&title=)

[Bannick]

Hey Mums...

Have yet hike above the top of the Palmer Chair. I was out there this past february and they could not open the Palmer becuase of wind so we hiked up just a bit above for some sweet 3-4 feet of fresh. I scoped out above the top of the chair...it looked impressive as it flew in and out of the clouds. It is pretty hairy up there with cravasses and the like. They had an incident that killed a few people last summer when some people slipped and fell into a crevasse and the rescue chopper crashed. It is a pretty easy route up from what I understand and would offer some great turns. I am trying to get out there for a few days this summer and will report.

:snowboarding:

[Bannick]

Castlerock:
Bannick, Someday I'll build a home in the mountains but with three very young kids, slopeside was the priority. (as well as a budget) The new on mountain stuff at Jay was ridiculously overpriced for what you got (in terms of finish, appliances, fixtures, etc).
Just don't forget....have tilty table will travel!!!

[Jerm]

Brettons Woods ....
never thought I'd find a place that was actually flatter than Okemo. I'd rather ski my hometown hill of Mt Southington CT.

[DMC]

I agree with you on Bretton Woods... We went there after avalanche training at Tucks a couple of years ago...
Wildcat was on "wind hold" so we went there... I took a few runs and went to the bar...

[DRPHIDDLEPHOS]

how could oflato (okemo) not make this list? the name okemo means flat topped mtn., i know that it has progressed in the past few years, but i grew up there and it was a clusterf@#k. but the young girlies where enough to keep me comming back! :D

[SkiStooge]

OK, my .43 cents worth. Least favorite area USED to be Waterville Sally. I can ski mid-week most of the time if I'm willing to sacrifice some sleep to do it (which I usually do). It's not as bad mid-week. Less crowds and especially less of the arrogant S.O.B.'s that are there on the weekends. My least fave now is ANY overcrowded area. Killy, Sunday River, etc. Maybe I'm a bit of a dinosaur but I'm willing to sacrifice uphill speed and capacity for the feel of more wide open spaces. Especially since MOST of the time the "open spaces" are usually filled by some form of beings that usually appear to be about 1 point above plant-life on the intelligence scale. (My apologies to the innocent plants out there). These beings (people) are NORMALLY found on black and double-black terrain whenever I go weekends. I have found that their APPROPRIATE skill level is somewhere between what is accesible from the area between any ski areas' "Magic Carpet" lift and the parking lot. I am a pretty firm believer that they should test some of these idiots for safety or ability (or kick them off the mountain when found above their safety level). Am I viscious towards these folks? Yes. Not to them physically but they sure do leave a bad feeling in my mind. I admit that to improve you have to push your own personal limits and am all for people learning but it's just that they should use a BIT of common sense! OK, nuff on that. My real least fave area now is probably Cranmore. I have mixed feelings about it as it was the first place I ever skiied way back when (the best lift there at the time was that thing that was on like a track---and I can't remember what it was even called...you sat in this little car and it took you up the mountain at a snails pace. It was fun the first time but it got old quickly. It took like 20 minutes to get to the summit. And this is little Cranmore!!! Next subject: Cannon locals. I was kinda a Cannon regular this season. Skiied it maybe 8-10 times. (I carry a season pass good at both Cannon and Gunstock----don't laugh, I live 7 minutes from the Gunstock parking lot. I skiied almost every weekday this past season. Get home from work, get about an hour or so nap, get up, eat breakfast, ski for maybe 3 or 4 hours, go home about lunch-time, get 3 or 4 more hours sleep, go to school/work, and do it all over again. I actually like Gunstock.) But then again, I DID ski it something like 65 (yes, 65) or so days this year. Not full days, but ski-days none the less. OK, maybe I got a bit bored at times, but I have the mental ability to have fun WHEREVER I ski. Guess I'm easily amused or somethingm huh? The view from Gunstocks' summit of Winnipesaukee and beyond to the mountains to the north is pretty awesome on a nice day :camera: . Not a huge area or especially challenging but as stated previously, fun is in the head of the head-owner. lol. This is DEFINITELY a record for the longest post for me. Guess that's about enough for this one. Have fun, be safe. Al :skistooge:

[mwilbs52]

Worst mtn list
1)Sunday river(someday bigger)-its flat, and why ski a river when you can ski a mtn?
2) Killington- new yorkers
3) all mtns south or new hampsire and vt (unless mtn is within a fifteen minute drive and is skied because its close to practice turns)

[elwood]

Wow...digging out of the archives, huh mwilbs52? :)

[mwilbs52]

Wow...digging out of the archives, huh mwilbs52? :)
ha yea man im in between classes here at school and that was the most intersting thread I found to post in :)

[PWDR8S]

My $0.02........
K-Mart for their overcapacity and ludicrous claims of perfect snow conditions and multitude of runs! Yah, right! Splitting a trail from top to bottom 'divided' up by cat tracks or easy runs does NOT constitute 3 or more runs! It is one run with trails crossing it! http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/doh.gif
Denton Hill in PA when I was really little... small hill + bad memories
The Pinnacle in Addison, NY ....I basically learned to ski there... Our family with a few others ran the mtn...er hill.... it was an upside down ski area. Long rope tow on one side of hill(burned through many gloves, mittens, flesh), A golf course on top and then platter lift with a 90 which 'linked' to an ancient T-bar with a 70 turn on it to the top on the other side. ONE RUN! More if you tried skiing the woods...er shrubbery. If you missed the last lift at night... you were screwed because you were at the base which was usually empty and it miles around to the top by road and 3hr climb up for a little kid in ski boots.

But I Mumster's comment.... any closed ski area is what I dislike. http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[stoneman]

SkiStooge: That lift at Cranmore, would be the "Skimobile". It was salvaged from the old original NY world's fair where it was used as a "futuristic" people mover type thing.

Worst Ski area: Pats (AKA Pabst) Peak... but i've never been to Waterville valley.

Hey M@, what about that sand pit area, was that better than waterville?

[PWDR8S]

Pat's Flats(Peak) is pretty lame as well. Glad you mentioned Waterville.... THAT one takes the cake.... I worked there for 3 yrs as a lift rat.... It basically sucked the whole time. Not challenging at all and the staff has better than thou attitudes. YES... I mean you TOM DAY!

[RR]

Tied for last:
Cranmore & Mt Snow
Tie for Next to last:
SomedayBigger and K-Mart

Top 5 (NE):
Tie: The Glen & The Bush
Tie: Magic, Jay & Burke
Consolation:
Most surprises: The Cat
Miss Congeniality: Pico
The Fallback Postition: Cannon

after that I'd rather hike for turns!

Special mention (elsewhere):
I liked Alta and Squaw very well...riding lifts, hiking and scenery! And then Dropping In!!

[Affix Snow]

Worst Mountain:

I dunno. I like snow. If im on it, ill be happy.....but if you twist my arm id have to say i dunno. Every mountain has a great day...meaning ive had a great day at the smallest sh!ttiest mountains, so agian, i dunno. Stowe is expensive. That sux.

[DMC]

Since this post was originally - ummm - posted...

I've come to realize that these "Whats the worst/best" threads suck...

[P-HUG]

ha yea man im in between classes here at school and that was the most intersting thread I found to post in :)

Wow, we better pick it up if we haven't had an interesting thread in 2 years. :eek:

[Mumster]

So the antithesis of my last popular question, What is your least favorite ski area?????
Any area that is closed.

[DMC]

Every ski area that exists is special to someone..

[Bannick]

Any area that is closed. :D
I am with mumster on this one.
Snow is snow...if it has got some slope it is still fun for me.
I try not to go to Blue Mountain in Ontario at high season. It is an intrawest resort that charges way to much for it's limited veritcal.

When the charge 10 bucks early season or 30 dollars for men's week it will do just fine.

[Snowboarder4206]

I think Loon and waterville are GREAT. Loon is always busy on the weekends, but awsome during the week. Ive waited in the longest lift line ive EVER waited in at loon. But that was on a saturday. The LMP is the sickest park around i think. Watervilles park sux but ive never waited in line longer that 10 min, EVER. Plus i like the threedom pass. Only $300 gets you all year to Loon, Waterville and cranmore. I did $3000 worth of snowboarding on that pass this year. Anyway, back to the subject........you wanna know my least fav resorts? PATS PEAK SUX BALLZ!!!!! Worst mountain ive ever been too. Also Crotched mountain really sux too LOL :doh:

[Castlerock]

Every ski area that exists is special to someone..

Yeah, except Hunter...Hunter Sucks.....Uhhh.. no I meant Killington.....Uhhh, no I really meant Sunday River!.....

What's with this kinder gentler stuff?.....

Nasty old thread though.

All joking aside....It is a melancholy time in lift serverd ski land, especially at an area that is special to you. It was a bit stuffy driving over Roxbury gap and looking back at the Mad River Valley yesterday. Many good times were had this year there, especially with some members of this board. I trust you all will make it back next year. There are more woods to be had.

[DMC]

Yeah, except Hunter...Hunter Sucks.....Uhhh.. no I meant Killington.....Uhhh, no I really meant Sunday River!.....

What's with this kinder gentler stuff?.....


As I start to lay roots down in this town(Hunter) - I started to realize that every ski area has something for someone..
I used to get on peoples case about blasting Hunter cause I thought I had something to proove.. And would fight to the end...

But now I realize that most ski areas have towns attatched to them - where people try to eek out an existence.. So now I approach things differently..
I try not to say negative things about areas... Cause if someone is arguing with me then they obviously love their home area... And thats cool...

now - I battle people about blasting Hunter cause I live there and want it to survive and prosper so my friends that have businesses survive and prosper too... Not because I'm trying to prove how excellent I am...

[JayTux]

Okemo. Defiantly.

No snow
No steeps
Crowds

:doh:

[Castlerock]

ha yea man im in between classes here at school and that was the most intersting thread I found to post in :)

What about the Kascha thread?

[DMC]

What about the Kascha thread?

Or the girls skiing topless thread???

[kmrnskier]

I think Loon and waterville are GREAT. Loon is always busy on the weekends, but awsome during the week. Ive waited in the longest lift line ive EVER waited in at loon. But that was on a saturday.

I second that about Loon being great on WEEKDAYS only. Weekends are so overly busy there, wait in line for 45 minutes just to dodge everyone on the trails. I think the North Peak has some good spring bumps, and some good cruisers.

As for out here in Colorado, the ski "resort" that I am not impressed with is Beaver Creek. The terrain is pretty good, but the majority of the people are "snooty". We stayed up there a couple weekends ago, wanted to go out and party Saturday night, and there was NOTHING to do!!!!

Anyone remember Highlands in Tilton, NH? I learned to ski there and Pats Peak, so I can't say anything bad about those places. It was all fun.

[RR]

There is one thinng I like about Loon. Interestingly enough I like Waterville for the same reason: Most of the ski traffic on I-93 is getting off at Campton and Lincoln and that's pretty much where the revenue activities stop too....
yeeeee hawwwww!

[PWDR8S]

I second that about Loon being great on WEEKDAYS only. Weekends are so overly busy there, wait in line for 45 minutes just to dodge everyone on the trails. I think the North Peak has some good spring bumps, and some good cruisers.

As for out here in Colorado, the ski "resort" that I am not impressed with is Beaver Creek. The terrain is pretty good, but the majority of the people are "snooty". We stayed up there a couple weekends ago, wanted to go out and party Saturday night, and there was NOTHING to do!!!!

Anyone remember Highlands in Tilton, NH? I learned to ski there and Pats Peak, so I can't say anything bad about those places. It was all fun.
I echo that about the Beav'.... kinda bland BUT Birds of Prey trail is a blast if you open the throttle ALL THE WAY!

I remember Highlands! I was trying to remember that puny little hill we practiced racing on.... Well... if YOU learned to ski at Highlands and Pat's 'Flats' and you now kick-a$$ on skiis, then they can't be all that bad? http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[elwood]

As for out here in Colorado, the ski "resort" that I am not impressed with is Beaver Creek. The terrain is pretty good, but the majority of the people are "snooty". We stayed up there a couple weekends ago, wanted to go out and party Saturday night, and there was NOTHING to do!!!!

Ummmmm...yeah... I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. Beaver Creek has incredible terrain, and probably THE BEST tree skiing in Colorado. Beats even Steamboat for trees, IMO. Sure the people may be snooty, but when they can't keep up...they can't bother you. Skier's right of Birds of Prey...some of the best trees I have ever skied.

[elwood]

I echo that about the Beav'.... kinda bland BUT Birds of Prey trail is a blast if you open the throttle ALL THE WAY!

I remember Highlands! I was trying to remember that puny little hill we practiced racing on.... Well... if YOU learned to ski at Highlands and Pat's 'Flats' and you now kick-a$$ on skiis, then they can't be all that bad? http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

You are all smoking crack. The Beav has THE BEST trees. You are judging based on your "I am out west and I want open bowls" mentality. There is nothing bland about the Beav, you guys just don't have the right tour guides. Plus, plenty of great open bowl stuff if you hike up to the football fields.

[kmrnskier]

Well... if YOU learned to ski at Highlands and Pat's 'Flats' and you now kick-a$$ on skiis, then they can't be all that bad? http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Thanks PWDR8S! - I owe that one to my dad - spent many years trying to keep up with him and his friends on the cruisers. Then, one day, I passed him :) He does very well - he's 63, and the 2 of us will be side by side on the cruisers, full throttle, with no exaggeration.

[PWDR8S]

Sounds a lot like my dad too..... fast cruiser. http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif

[elwood]

both of you are still on crack...

[P-HUG]

both of you are still on crack...

It's 4:20, are you guys indulging a day too soon??

[cliffhuxtable]

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Shawnee Mountain is the first stop off I-80 which just loads up with bus trips from N. Jersey and NYC Metro. The concept is how many tickets can the mountain sell and how many skis/ boards can we rent put on the mountain today. Combine a bunch of beginners (most with no lessons),no etiquette, and a NYC metro mentality...Yuch.

84 to go...


Ditto that fer all naner belt pocono jobbies. But couple whatcha said with absolutly zero expert runs, and well you have my least favorite places on earth to ski.

[DMC]

It's 4:20, are you guys indulging a day too soon??

ahh.. Tomorrow is the holiest of all days...

[Affix Snow]

Since this post was originally - ummm - posted...

I've come to realize that these "Whats the worst/best" threads suck...

Yeah...this sux.

You SUCK Elwood. Wanna Fight about it?

[cliffhuxtable]

Tied for last:
Cranmore & Mt Snow
Tie for Next to last:
SomedayBigger and K-Mart

Top 5 (NE):
Tie: The Glen & The Bush
Tie: Magic, Jay & Burke
Consolation:
Most surprises: The Cat
Miss Congeniality: Pico
The Fallback Postition: Cannon

after that I'd rather hike for turns!

Special mention (elsewhere):
I liked Alta and Squaw very well...riding lifts, hiking and scenery! And then Dropping In!!

SomedayBigger....hah! Never heard, Rep given. Yet to be to Burke, Cat or Cannon, but most everywhere in VT and I'll have to agree....

I'll add: Best no crowds on a Pow day- Magic.

[mwilbs52]

Or the girls skiing topless thread???

link me up to the girls skiing topless thread

[kmrnskier]

both of you are still on crack...

Why, are you????

[elwood]

Yeah...this sux.

You SUCK Elwood. Wanna Fight about it?
I'll punch you in the ovaries!

[kmrnskier]

I'll punch you in the ovaries!

Elwood - (I don't think Affix has any ovaries - he's a GUY!!!!) :eek: ;)

[elwood]

Elwood - (I don't think Affix has any ovaries - he's a GUY!!!!) :eek: ;)
That's not what I heard!

[Castlerock]

Does anyone have proof?

[mogulskiergirl]

Nashoba Valley....its this ant hilll in massachusetts, about a half hour away from where i live, when i was in elementary school (now a sophmore in highschool) we went on night ski trips there everynight and it was just a lame mountain, there are no words really to describe it haha the only good thing about that place was the fried dough!

[JayTux]

OKEMO

NO STEEPS
NO GOOD GLADES
NO GOOD BUMPS
NO NATURAL SNOW
TONS OF CROWDS

I simply cant stand that mountain. :cry: :cry: :cry:

[RR]

OKEMO

NO STEEPS
NO GOOD GLADES
NO GOOD BUMPS
NO NATURAL SNOW
TONS OF CROWDS

I simply cant stand that mountain. :cry: :cry: :cry:I last went there in the late '70s....it was my second trip....I did'nt get the point and went back to Stowe and Madonna(now called Smuggs...shhhhh, there's a bunch of reasons I don't say anything about that place.......)

[JayTux]

Yeah, it stinks. The whole philosophy and attitude towards skiing and the mountains is nonexistent.

[BladeGirl]

Any area that is closed. :D

You got THAT right!
;)
-BG

[Justin]

Ahhh my favorite rant.

Sunday River is the quintessential modern ski area and an anathema to all real skiers!

1.) RT 26 is a nightmare of logging trucks, no passing zones and Mainers in jalopys blocking the road.

2.) 2340' Vert....Hah!
Maybe 1000 contiguous vertical.

3.) 3140' summit. That isn't even high enough to get above the deciduous forest.

3.) 155 annual inches of snow.
I get about as much in my back yard.

4.) Terrain: Lame
Steepest, longest, widest, what the hell kind of stat is that? Making the trail wider makes it better?

Ahhh but the condos! The skier visits! And the icemaking!
ahhh, words from a true southern New Eglander... don't like it? even better, more for me...

[Justin]

least fav for muaw....

Really tough to nail that one down but a few that come to mind for various reasons.

okemo is just boring - nothing about it SUX...

Killington just pisses me off... attitude is hardly that of Vermont, hords of peeps and so on...

waterville and loon get purdy crowded on weekends and you can't asecape the crowds like some other places...

Deer valley...$$$$$$$ need i say more? possibly the lamest atmosphere i've come across while skiing.

[JayTux]

Okemo =boring and lackluster.

There is no spirit for the sport like that of some other areas. (Jay, Mad River, etc.)

[NtrentT]

I agree with M@ on Waterville Sally

GOD that place sux.

Whats with the little extra chair on the top that serves a bunny hill, just so they can claim the vert.

and the LINES OMG !!!

I skiied there once, cause my best friends X-Girlfriend was psyced out by CANNON and didnt want to go. So we had to go to Waterville SUCKY.

GOD did i regret it.

I was out numbered, of course my friend diss-acknowledged the "Bros Before Hoes" rule and sided with here, and I was out voted.

Im still bitter, cause the day was BLUEBIRD, and the only time I skiied cannon was with BladeGirl in the FOG..

SO I can say I skiied cannon but didnt see it.

[NtrentT]

O and and about Okemo.

I have my complaints but never about their bumps, Ive always caught the bumps in their prime there. No real leg burners but the bumps have always had nice lines.

The complaints: I have 1

I decided to take several SOLO day trips up there from CT, so this is comming for more than 1 expierence.

Everytime was in Mid week, well into the Season when everything is opened.

I GET there and HALF THE MTN is closed simply cause they dont want to patrol it.

BUT I STILL HAVE TO PAY FULL PRICE..

W.T.F is up with that.

So im really pissed at Okemo.

ANd Jackson Gore just sucks, lame excuse to build Real Estate.

[Snowboarder4206]

you want a sucky mountain, go to pats peak. THAT is a ant hill. I think its like 400 feet vertical. $40 for a day there, what a waste of money. And there Park is the most gawd-awful, piece of crap creation ive ever seen. Its like they used the snow cat, pilled a punch of snow into a pile, and then let the skiers do the rest. What a bunch of crap, ill never go there again :doh:

[DMC]

I learned to ski on a little ant hill in Ohio... It was called Boston Mills...

Man it was fun... I spent two weeks allowance on ski rentals and lift tickets..
Only could go a few times...

[Freebird]

Wow...digging out of the archives, huh mwilbs52? :)


HA

I started reading this thread and I got down to "this time of year sucks" and I thought what the F? Then I looked at the date. Holy blast from the past batman!

[JayTux]

O and and about Okemo.

I have my complaints but never about their bumps, Ive always caught the bumps in their prime there. No real leg burners but the bumps have always had nice lines.

The complaints: I have 1

I decided to take several SOLO day trips up there from CT, so this is comming for more than 1 expierence.

Everytime was in Mid week, well into the Season when everything is opened.

I GET there and HALF THE MTN is closed simply cause they dont want to patrol it.

BUT I STILL HAVE TO PAY FULL PRICE..

W.T.F is up with that.

So im really pissed at Okemo.

ANd Jackson Gore just sucks, lame excuse to build Real Estate.

Couldn't agree more. Jackson Gore is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. An expert run at Okemo is like an intermediate at Jay or Mad River.

[PWDR8S]

Couldn't agree more. Jackson Gore is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. An expert run at Okemo is like an intermediate at Jay or Mad River.
Woah dude!.... That's being too generous! http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[JayTux]

When my friend invited me to Okemo i wanted to just go :cry: :doh: :mad: :envy: :unhappyhiker: :justdoit: :gasp:

(Die)

[RR]

Woah dude!.... That's being too generous! http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.giftruer words have been spoken, but I can't remember when

Ullr loves skiers no matter where they slide....I'm very happy that so many people stay with Okemo, KMart, Mt Flatten and such.....the extra space at the Bush is very much appreciated.

[TonyL]

Mumster...your right we can't be too fussy S. of New England....good news is we ahve a few options within a two hour drive. I have to say that Wyndham was one of the best this past winter, however the Catskills is a long drive (200 miles, a 3 hour drive.

Can anybody give me an opinion on Elk Mountain?

83 to go...

The snow is great and the crowds are few but the runs are too short. Feels like you spend more time on the lift then the trail.

[172Recon]

I am torn between Killington and Stratton. This is why:

1. My last ticket practically cost me my first born, in addition to my left n_t. Luckily it was a weekday so they were only used as collateral until I paid in full.

2. They're the only two places on earth that you could get hit by a Hummer with New York/Jersey plates while walking to the lift and have the driver scream at you and flip you off for denting his fendor with your head.

3. Gestapo ski patrol. I ducked under a rope one time to get someone's ski for them and I was practically given the full body cavity search. They eventually settled for a DNA and stool sample.

Dishonorable Mention:

Mount Snow (with the exception of Haystack---Not bad for the price and lack of crowds).

Wachusett

Attitash

[moonfly]

Attitash - there is not a worse mtn. in new england is you ask me.(except maybe Bosquet, the mtn I grew up skiing in western MA) Everytime I go to Attitash I'm like :doh: what the F was I thinking driving all this way! I have never had a good day there. But really any ASC mtn. stinks (except he Loaf :D ) ... Its just those damn cheap passes that get ya every year. I have pretty much skiied killington to death. I need to figure out a different deal for next year !

[JayTux]

Attitash - there is not a worse mtn. in new england is you ask me.(except maybe Bosquet, the mtn I grew up skiing in western MA) Everytime I go to Attitash I'm like :doh: what the F was I thinking driving all this way! I have never had a good day there. But really any ASC mtn. stinks (except he Loaf :D ) ... Its just those damn cheap passes that get ya every year. I have pretty much skiied killington to death. I need to figure out a different deal for next year !

What's so bad about it. I've never been there but last saturday it looked good from the upper snowfields...Then again that was just a view...

[moonfly]

What's so bad about it. ...

Its really just my opinion - im sure some people love it. Everytime I go its SUPER windy, there is NO good snow, its crowded and I end up traversing back and forth between Bear and Attitash the whole time. I do more cross country skiing there, its like being at Killington with much less terraine and no good snow to speak of.

I am being rough on the mountain but its ASC and its poorly taken care of and groomed to ****. If you are up that way just ski Wildcat and have a better day and a good view of tux to make you drool! :)

[JayTux]

Its really just my opinion - im sure some people love it. Everytime I go its SUPER windy, there is NO good snow, its crowded and I end up traversing back and forth between Bear and Attitash the whole time. I do more cross country skiing there, its like being at Killington with much less terraine and no good snow to speak of.

I am being rough on the mountain but its ASC and its poorly taken care of and groomed to ****. If you are up that way just ski Wildcat and have a better day and a good view of tux to make you drool! :)

I see. Well, thanks for the info, as I will never go to Attitash. I avoid Wildcat on clear days on purpose because you can see tux and huntington and for that matter all of Mount Washington and lots of other stuff. I always imagine i will :doh: if i go to wildcat and see Tux starting me in the face...

[DMC]

Wildcat is a great mountain... I'd rather ski it then Attitash too...

[Kim]

I can't stand Crotched or Sunapee.

Pat's Peak is great for what it is - a small area where the local kids from Nashua to Concord can learn to ski. The family that owns it are real nice. I wouldn't vacation there or ski it by choice, but like I said, it's perfect for the reason it exists - as a small family area.

I like Ragged but it's in the middle of nowhere.

See, I love Waterville and Bretton Woods. I'm not a Loon fan, and I love Attitash and Canon. I even still get misty eyed when I look at Mittersill, which I skiied back in the early 80s.

In VT I really don't like Killington. Stratton is a good family mountain and the "town square" is nice. Mt. Snow is nasty. The rest are good, with the exception of Okemo, but the town is fun.

[PWDR8S]

Sunapee used to be fun, although a bit small until the new mngmt (Okemo Group) homoginized the place. Widened all the trails and what good unknown glade runs which used to be the staple of the "in crowd" have been labeled, cleared and presented as glade runs on their trail maps! Damn them! AND the daily midweek tkt is $54!!!!!!! Absurd!!!!

I skied there twice this season and it's in my back yard! I like it at this time because I can poach their snow without them making a fuss. No lifts, crowds, or idiots around anywhere! It IS STILL A STATE PARK after all!

Otherwise... Sunapee lost it's charm.

[Bannick]

I am torn between Killington and Stratton. This is why:

2. They're the only two places on earth that you could get hit by a Hummer with New York/Jersey plates while walking to the lift and have the driver scream at you and flip you off for denting his fendor with your head.


Ever been to Stowe? Apparently my silver honda is invisble to Jersey Hummers....

[RR]

Ever been to Stowe? Apparently my silver honda is invisble to Jersey Hummers....ooohhhh, that sounds tragic!

[ATP]

Any area that is closed.


Actually, I'm kind of partial to certain closed ski areas. Backcountry season starts a few weeks earlier when there are cleared (and carefully maintained) trails on which to enjoy private freshies. It also makes skiing alone in the bc a little safer, since the trails are sure to be free of stumps and deadfall.

As for least favorite areas, none stands out as awful, although there are several places that I don't think are worth the money and time: Loon, Attitash, Slokemo, Sunapee, Waterville, Flatten, Someday Bigger, plus some other areas that are too small to pick on.

[RR]

There are two standouts for small areas that are excellent. Magic and Burke. Southern VT and the Kingdom represented well....Steeps and deeps and not too crowded.

[ATP]

There are two standouts for small areas that are excellent. Magic and Burke. Southern VT and the Kingdom represented well....Steeps and deeps and not too crowded.

Much agreed. Further south, Berkeshire East makes the list too. Other ski areas that I think have under-rated terrain are Ragged and Pico, at which you can find challenging and/or snow-choked lines that you have to yourself all day long.

[kmrnskier]

Sunapee used to be fun, although a bit small until the new mngmt (Okemo Group) homoginized the place. Widened all the trails and what good unknown glade runs which used to be the staple of the "in crowd" have been labeled, cleared and presented as glade runs on their trail maps! Damn them! AND the daily midweek tkt is $54!!!!!!! Absurd!!!!

I skied there twice this season and it's in my back yard! I like it at this time because I can poach their snow without them making a fuss. No lifts, crowds, or idiots around anywhere! It IS STILL A STATE PARK after all!

Otherwise... Sunapee lost it's charm.

Sunapee was fun during the week, use to be close to me, no lines during the week, good snow. Weekends are way to crowded, might as well just get out of bed in the morning, put your ski clothes and skis on, and just stand there, b/c that is what you would be doing in line on a weekend there.

[kmrnskier]

Ya know, after thinking about it, I love any ski area/place, in-bounds or OB, with no crowds.

[Bannick]

ooohhhh, that sounds tragic!
4 CLOSE calls in a one month period most of which I was in Toronto for....Jess worked at the Stoweflake and there were a tonne of Hummers whippin up and down the road.

[172Recon]

Ever been to Stowe? Apparently my silver honda is invisble to Jersey Hummers....


OK, make that three places on Earth. I haven't been to the resort in a a few years. If I get out that way, it's usually to skin up the Bruce or Teardrop. Sorry to hear about your Honda. My Toyota fell victim also. If it's any further consolation, I was run over by a military Hummer...But that's another story.

[jdew]

Ya know, after thinking about it, I love any ski area/place, in-bounds or OB, with no crowds.


That's the ticket . . . .any place without a crowd. :snowboarding:

[Bannick]

I was run over by a military Hummer...But that's another story.
Don't they kick you out of the service for that type of Behavior??? ;)

[172Recon]

Don't they kick you out of the service for that type of Behavior??? ;)

Well...I guess it depends on the gender of the driver.

[gosnow]

Not enough action on the board for me lately...

So the antithesis of my last popular question, What is your least favorite ski area?????


When I lived in Chicago, I had the pleasure of skiing a bump called Wilmot. (http://www.wilmotmountain.com/) I think it was built on an old landfill, and it has about 250 feet of vertical. I don't think I ever took one turn there, and probably skied there 100 times.

This is the kind of question that can get you in trouble, for surely your least favorite ski area will be someone else's favorite.
That said, my least favorite ski area has to be Hunter. Lot's of folks dislike it because it is like bringing NYC to the mountain, but I have my own personal reason to hate it.
A few years ago, I brought my eldest son there for an early season ski racing camp (J4) . I entrusted my son to the care of the instructor who took the group of kids up. On their second run down, my son took a nasty fall in a difficult mogul field.( Why moguls for a ski race camp where many of the kids had their boots jacked up with race plates?) My son lay collapsed on the hill unable to get up. The instructor just blew right by him without asking if he was alright or needed help. He just yelled out to my son " Meet us at the bottom of F lift" and took off. What if my son had broken his leg? Eventually, my son got up and skied out. Not knowing where the F lift was, since he had never skied there before, he went back to the lodge, where I met him.
Needless to say I would never entrust the safety of my kids to the Hunter staff. In my opinion, they are just one part of what is wrong with Hunter.

[DMC]

Needless to say I would never entrust the safety of my kids to the Hunter staff. In my opinion, they are just one part of what is wrong with Hunter.

I have forwarded this to my friend who runs the race programs... Believe me - most of the race people are really nice and I can't imagine that kind of thing happening...

Sorry - that happened... Did you say anything?
What was the response?

what else happed that was so bad? Or should I ask...
Cause I obviuosly love Hunter...

[DMC]

God i hate these negative threads...

[RR]

D, If Hunter has a Mtn Ambassador program...you should be in it! The right stuff!

[DMC]

D, If Hunter has a Mtn Ambassador program...you should be in it! The right stuff!

Yup... But I approach more from a living there standpoint now... I want people to come - enjoy the mountain - and spend cash in my community at my friends stores... I believe gosnow may have a real issue.. Cause there have been(and are) instructors that are total jerks... That happens everywhere...
But lots of people blast Hunter just to look cool - when the real issue is they are not good enough skiers to enjoy the best part of the hill...

I don't think there's a problem that cant be resolved on that mountain... Except for the crowded areas of the hill - which I avoid anyway...

[DMC]

And I still really hate this thread...
Cause even the crappiest little hill is a gem to someone...

[idahobobb]

i don't think its negative dmc as much as just the opinion of another . some things turn people off to areas cuz they get snow while they're on vacation there-as ludicrous as that sounds i've witnessed complaints for just such things. comparing east coast ANYTHING,not just skiing , to anything west coast and you'll get the similar debates. its up there with talking politics or religion!!!

[idahobobb]

hogback baby--the gem of southern vermont

[DMC]

i don't think its negative dmc as much as just the opinion of another . some things turn people off to areas cuz they get snow while they're on vacation there-as ludicrous as that sounds i've witnessed complaints for just such things. comparing east coast ANYTHING,not just skiing , to anything west coast and you'll get the similar debates. its up there with talking politics or religion!!!

I understand that for sure... I know people that think Jackson Hole svcks...
And if it was just the blatent HUNTER SVCKS stuff - I'd probably would've ignored it...

But I do want to make it better for the sake of the community which struggles in the shadow of this mountain...
Plus I feel akin to Tuckerman people more so then others and seek out their opionions..

[idahobobb]

right on...same page all the way--living in and around a resort is a real tug of emotion!! relying on tourist dollars and not sacrificing the heart and spirit of the area is a constant --also trying to stay away from the "localist"thing---i remember being young back in vt and seeing the bumper stickers welcome to vermont,now go home--it was wrong........anyway i have great memories of hunter----the skiing and the atmospere

[BladeGirl]

Gosnow, sounds like you and your son had a pretty bad experience with an awful instructor! But I would not judge a mountain by one instructor. Did you report the instructor to the ski school or file a complaint? How did the staff address your concerns? Did they fire (or at least fail to rehire) the instructor? Did they offer your son a free lesson with another class?

-BG

[gosnow]

I have forwarded this to my friend who runs the race programs... Believe me - most of the race people are really nice and I can't imagine that kind of thing happening...

Sorry - that happened... Did you say anything?
What was the response?

what else happed that was so bad? Or should I ask...
Cause I obviuosly love Hunter...

Of course, I complained directly to the head of the program. She was apolgetic and refunded my money, because at that point I was so disgusted that I pulled my kid out. That was the end of it, but it's something I can't forget.

[RR]

We have a poster on the wall in our cafeteria:
"It takes years to develop a good customer, and seconds to loose one."

It's a simple fact of business...most places would be horrified to have one of their employees act in such a manner.

Remember the old adage: "When thrown by a horse, get right back on!" It's better for both horse and rider.

[gosnow]

I just hope that our experience was an isolated one.
I'm leaving this negative thread behind now. Onto more positive ones.

[DMC]

I just hope that our experience was an isolated one.
I'm leaving this negative thread behind now. Onto more positive ones.

I bet I can hook you up with a free pass for you and your son next year if you come up and ski a day.. Give me a PM next season...
It would be fun...

How old is he anyway?

[DMC]

Of course, I complained directly to the head of the program. She was apolgetic and refunded my money, because at that point I was so disgusted that I pulled my kid out. That was the end of it, but it's something I can't forget.

I'd be livid too...

Glad you made a stink... Nothing gets changed until people know about the problem....

[ptex1.1]

But the worst is Tenney Mtn what a bunch of sht. But I hart Burk.

[gosnow]

I bet I can hook you up with a free pass for you and your son next year if you come up and ski a day.. Give me a PM next season...
It would be fun...

How old is he anyway?

Thanks, You're a good person. I hate having brought bad vibes to the TFT
forum. It's a place where people come together and feel good about a shared experience.
My son, Nick, is 14. Here is a photo of him from 2003:
C:\Temp\Extreme03_Nick_200.jpg

[gosnow]

Thanks, You're a good person. I hate having brought bad vibes to the TFT
forum. It's a place where people come together and feel good about a shared experience.
My son, Nick, is 14. Here is a photo of him from 2003:
C:\Temp\Extreme03_Nick_200.jpg

That didn't work. Hope this does.
http://timefortuckerman.com/photopost/data/759/2274Extreme03_Nick_1-med.jpg

[DMC]

That didn't work. Hope this does.
http://timefortuckerman.com/photopost/data/759/2274Extreme03_Nick_1-med.jpg

Thats a great picture!!!

Lucky kid!

[DaveTV]

Get out of the Les Otten mind set...(I still don't know how he got into the Redsox ownership group)
Les Otten is a great guy - what qualifies you to disrespect him?? :rolleyes:

[Justin]

Les Otten is a great guy - what qualifies you to disrespect him?? :rolleyes:

I attended school with his son -- played sports with him as well. I skied at his mountain (and still do if you consider it his) he was a prick.

[Castlerock]

Les Otten is a great guy - what qualifies you to disrespect him?? :rolleyes:

I respect him as a entrepreneur, albeit a failed one. What I don't repect is his vision for ski areas. That is what I was referring to. Take a look at the Otten ski blueprint. Intermediate vanilla skiing and cheap (quality wise) unliveable condos. I could go on and on. When the condo pyramid scheme collapsed, the skiing couldn't support the sunk costs of the investment.

I wish I had his ability to get others to invest, that is the entrepreneurial gift. But keep him away from where I ski.....

[P-HUG]

I wish I had his ability to get others to invest, that is the entrepreneurial gift. But keep him away from where I ski.....

Here, Here my good man!
Well spoken.

[DMC]

"Less Otten - More snowboarding!!!"

[JBHeadParrot]

I know I'm new here, but I always hated Attitash. It doesn't get much sun and majority of the trails are strainght.

[P-HUG]

I know I'm new here, but I always hated Attitash. It doesn't get much sun and majority of the trails are strainght.

Atti-trash as we like to refer to it.
Bear Peak can be ok with the right conditions mid-week.

[Jolly J]

Atti-trash as we like to refer to it.
Bear Peak can be ok with the right conditions mid-week.

Attitrash is having a free day on June 25th. mmmmm lift serviced Mountain Biking. I really enjoyed their bike trails last year. Put on 15 km's and never went up a single hill. Won't be able to make it this year, oh well.

[P-HUG]

Attitrash is having a free day on June 25th. mmmmm lift serviced Mountain Biking. I really enjoyed their bike trails last year. Put on 15 km's and never went up a single hill. Won't be able to make it this year, oh well.

damn have to work that weekend, but thanx for the update.

[JBHeadParrot]

A much as I dislike the place there is one trail I'd like to see w/out any snow in it... Upper Speedway. That would be a narly trail to ride down! I haven't skiied there since Bear Peak was added.

[PWDR8S]

Hmmmmmm.... now that sounds entertaining! I just might do that 25th June deal! Thanks!

[awf170]

Atti-trash as we like to refer to it.
Bear Peak can be ok with the right conditions mid-week.

yeah i hate that mountain... i thought it was pretty lame at the only time i have ever been there and i was like 12

[skicdave]

Never skied Sunday River, but stopped in for a place to stay in late May a few years back. Was late in the day and the place was pretty much deserted... they probably had about a 5% vacancy, yet they wanted $250 US for a basic room to sleep! Yikes! Ended up at the Norseman (??) down the road for about $40.

About Waterville. Guess I'd have to disagree with M@... after all I first heard about Tuckerman Ravine while riding up the double with some guy there... so I owe Waterville big time I guess.

My least favorite places are unmentionables 90% of you would have never heard of so I won't bother listing them.

[elwood]

I can't believe this thread is still alive! This must be the longest "active" thread in T4T history!

[Castlerock]

It is still dead....
Kill it.

[idahobobb]

ahhhhhhhhh ya beat me to that punch elwwod-----thread goes on---worst hilll ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh one with no snow yeeeeeeeeeee howwwwwwwwww ;)

[skicdave]

Ha ha! Didn't see this one was started by Elwood 2 years ago! Elwood is soooo patient though... didn't mind waiting 2 years to get everyones opinions.

[elwood]

It is still dead....
Kill it.
I'm closing it... because it should have died 2 years ago...