A-basin Avy

[skiyak777]

FRISCO, Colo. (AP) - One person is dead in a huge avalanche at the Arapahoe Basin Ski Area, and Search and Rescue crews are probing for more victims.
Summit County authorities say workers tried to revive the man for about a half-hour before pronouncing him dead on the mountain.

Undersheriff Derek Woodman says the slide was about 1,000-feet wide, and roughly 800-feet down.

The avalanche was contained to the top of A-Basin's Pallavicini run, which was reportedly closed at the time of the slide.

[DMC]

KMRN told me she was headed there today maybe.

:(

[PWDR8S]

KMRN told me she was headed there today maybe.

:( Uh oh.... Hope it isn't Dan that got caught in the slide. http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif Hope she didn't get caught either! It sux regardless. Have a buddy out there I chat with everyday on AIM.... haven't heard from him today... Making me concerned. http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gifhttp://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

[DMC]

This is why I always wear a tranceiver out west...
I may look like an idiot to some - but I could care less..

[PWDR8S]

This is why I always wear a tranceiver out west...
I may look like an idiot to some - but I could care less..
If you think about it..... you would be the only idiot alive if a slide happened.

EDIT: Er....wait... lemme rephrase that.

At least you would live to tell the tale. Heck... you know what I mean.

[RR]

Man...that settles it....Beacon (prolly a DTS Tracker) before December 05.....

I borrowed one of Rainman's for the KR trip and didn't mind the weight one tiny bit! When I have it I'll be looking for folks to practice with.....

we could bury the beacons in leaves......and naturally we would have to simulate the affects of altitude and injury with quantities of beer

[DMC]

Man...that settles it....Beacon (prolly a DTS Tracker) before December 05.....

I borrowed one of Rainman's for the KR trip and didn't mind the weight one tiny bit! When I have it I'll be looking for folks to practice with.....

we could bury the beacons in leaves......and naturally we would have to simulate the affects of altitude and injury with quantities of beer

I have an open transceiver lending policy...
If I'm not using it... And I can get it to you... It's yours...

"On in the car - off at the bar"

[bclockwood]

Here's a link I just found regarding this. No Dan named in the report:

http://www.summitdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Site=SD&Date=20030322&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=303220103&Ref=AR
ski&ride

This ^ links to a March 2003 Slide. I think this is the link: http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20050520/NEWS/50520002

No names in any account, yet. Rough-city for a nice day of in bounds skiing:
http://arapahoebasin.com/images/abasin_trailbig.jpg

[DMC]

They just showed an arial view of the slide...

Friggen hangfire is keeping people away... The whole face above the crown has fractures in it...

wow... scarey stuff..

[ptex1.1]

Here is a cross post and some first hand accounts

Here (http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30206&page=3&pp=25)

[DMC]

Here is a cross post and some first hand accounts

Here (http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30206&page=3&pp=25)

Pretty scarey... I wouldnt want to be under that searching with everything ready to let lose above...

[Rider.Steve]

Man...that settles it....Beacon (prolly a DTS Tracker) before December 05.....

I borrowed one of Rainman's for the KR trip and didn't mind the weight one tiny bit! When I have it I'll be looking for folks to practice with.....

we could bury the beacons in leaves......and naturally we would have to simulate the affects of altitude and injury with quantities of beer

You're on! I need to upgrade my tools and techniques for next season, and would enjoy sampling other strong beers in the process.

Steve

[ski&ride]

This ^ links to a March 2003 Slide. I think this is the link: http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20050520/NEWS/50520002

No names in any account, yet. Rough-city for a nice day of in bounds skiing:
http://arapahoebasin.com/images/abasin_trailbig.jpg

Good catch, thanks. I had googled the avi info & read/posted too quickly. Saw March, missed the year. Thanks for the correct links. Scary, that slide looks sickening.

ski&ride

[DMC]

Anybody got Kmrn's number or email?

She said in a PM yesterday that she MAY be going to ABasin today...

Sent her a PM - not sure when she checks them..
Just feeling unsettled...

Another guy I know's grilfriend was actually there today too... She's OK...

[RR]

Anybody got Kmrn's number or email?

She said in a PM yesterday that she MAY be going to ABasin today...

Sent her a PM - not sure when she checks them..
Just feeling unsettled...

Another guy I know's grilfriend was actually there today too... She's OK...I just flashed than John might, I left a message with him...fingers crossed brothers and sisters...fingers crossed.

[kmrnskier]

I didn't end up going today, went for a hike up Bear Peak in Boulder instead. I've thought about how the avi conditions might be considering the HOT weather we've had here. Dan called me today while I was hiking to let me know what happened. And, yes, I would have been either over at the Pali chair or hiking the East Wall around that time. Gonna have to drive up there just to see the debris.

By the way, it hit 95 here today - UGH!!!!! Too hot, too fast.

Thanks for the concerns everyone!! Now if everyone will just have a beer, or 2, or 3....for the poor gent who lost his life today, doing what he enjoyed :(

[PWDR8S]

I didn't end up going today, went for a hike up Bear Peak in Boulder instead. I've thought about how the avi conditions might be considering the HOT weather we've had here. Dan called me today while I was hiking to let me know what happened. And, yes, I would have been either over at the Pali chair or hiking the East Wall around that time. Gonna have to drive up there just to see the debris.

By the way, it hit 95 here today - UGH!!!!! Too hot, too fast.

Thanks for the concerns everyone!! Now if everyone will just have a beer, or 2, or 3....for the poor gent who lost his life today, doing what he enjoyed :(

WOW! HOT HOT HOT! And not just YOU too! 95F? Whew! I'ld be climbing to the nearest snowpack and lying on it to chill.

So glad you're OK! It's scary knowing friends that may be in harms way. Most of us know of the risks we take and that is part of the lifestyle. I'll be sure to tip a couple brews today in memory for the lost one at A-Basin and to my friend I lost to a slide earlier this seaon and to all the others persuing their passions. And of course TO LIFE! http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[RR]

Whew!

To Life...and fallen comrades

[P-HUG]

Oh man, did you guys see some of the pics posted in that thread?
Looks nasty, I guess that area was open contrary to media reports that it was closed. But it's been super warm there creating very unstable conditions.

[Huckasaurass]

The avalanche was contained to the top of A-Basin's Pallavicini run, which was reportedly closed at the time of the slide.

Very Sad story. There is a reason they put those ropes up....though some are always in the pursuit of "extremes" or that adrenaline high...

Matt

[DMC]

Very Sad story. There is a reason they put those ropes up....though some are always in the pursuit of "extremes" or that adrenaline high...

Matt

Pav was open...
Initial reports were incorrect...
http://geosurvey.state.co.us/Avalanche/Default.aspx?tabid=44#AB05202005

[pepperdawg]

I have an open transceiver lending policy...
If I'm not using it... And I can get it to you... It's yours...

"On in the car - off at the bar"


Same here - I've offered mine before, but once again - any needs to borrow - just give a holler.

I agree with DMC - I also generally wear mine 75% of the time out west even in bounds.......had a a scary day at Squaw off of KT22 a few years back ofter a heavy 3+ foot dump...even though it was inbounds after bombing - my GF was above me in trouble (lost ski, could get ski back on etc..) and all I kept thinking was "If this lets go"....

[Huckasaurass]

Pav was open...
Initial reports were incorrect...
http://geosurvey.state.co.us/Avalanche/Default.aspx?tabid=44#AB05202005


Ouch......that makes it even rougher......wish I had seen taht beofre posting..

Eh...sad day in any event...

Matt

[pepperdawg]

Pav was open...
Initial reports were incorrect...
http://geosurvey.state.co.us/Avalanche/Default.aspx?tabid=44#AB05202005


Thats rough - Palli area is filled with rocks/tress and other trauma inducing objects....bad place to get cought in a slide....when I think of Abasin I typlically think of slides over on the East Wall etc....

When I think of A-basin iun May I think of parking lot BBQs.....sad sad stuff..... :(

[NtrentT]

Tragic event...

I heard about this on the news.

Id like to have a beacon although they are so expensive, Ill have to rent next time I go out west.

Anyone reccomend any good ones?

[DMC]

Tragic event...

I heard about this on the news.

Id like to have a beacon although they are so expensive, Ill have to rent next time I go out west.

Anyone reccomend any good ones?

We got threads upon threads on this... Do a search...
You'll find some good stuff..

[idahobobb]

ok ----on that note ahhhhhhhh---i suggest the good ol tracker dts a monkey could use it proficiently in under an hour----comfortable with your skills on ANY beacon is the critical part---i love my pieps 2 but theres no doubt the tracker is quicker to learn----cheers guys

[NtrentT]

ok ----on that note ahhhhhhhh---i suggest the good ol tracker dts a monkey could use it proficiently in under an hour----comfortable with your skills on ANY beacon is the critical part---i love my pieps 2 but theres no doubt the tracker is quicker to learn----cheers guys


Here it is, on backcountrystore.com 269.91
http://akamai.backcountrystore.com.edgesuite.net/images/items/large/BCA0018.jpg

[DMC]

ok ----on that note ahhhhhhhh---i suggest the good ol tracker dts a monkey could use it proficiently in under an hour----comfortable with your skills on ANY beacon is the critical part---i love my pieps 2 but theres no doubt the tracker is quicker to learn----cheers guys

At "AVI 1" Class we had all the tranceivers that were available at the time to try..
The Tracker was the easiest...
Although I seem to remember the Barryvox was pretty good too...

Havent used a Pieps2 yet...

[DMC]

Here it is, on backcountrystore.com 269.91


Keep an eye out on EBay..
Professionals get them for cheap and sell them every once and a while..

[NtrentT]

Keep an eye out on EBay..
Professionals get them for cheap and sell them every once and a while..


Cool...

Never thought of that, thanks, I will check when I get home, no ebay here at school. They block everything so the students do some work... and staff too..

thanks again

[idahobobb]

pieps 2 i got back in early 90's the yellow one---not they're latest and greatest---your're right though everyone has the goods now-- i like bcs' shovel/probe combo too---a tad heavy but it all fits together so nicely--

[PWDR8S]

Just had an idea...... Anyone up for negotiating with one of the companies to sell through T4T at a discount? Perhaps the proceeds can help fund this site, since we all or at least most are interested or love B/C fun?


On another note..... I did finally hear from my bud out in CO that was there that day. Whew! I don't think I could handle losing another friend that way in one season.

[idahobobb]

under 200 would be great for any newer beacon--pretty cheap insurance none the less--this guy sounds like it was some serious trauma that caused death unfortunatly--and word from a loveland patrol buddy o mine says a patroller was wanting to close it off too :(

[DMC]

under 200 would be great for any newer beacon--pretty cheap insurance none the less--this guy sounds like it was some serious trauma that caused death unfortunatly--and word from a loveland patrol buddy o mine says a patroller was wanting to close it off too :(

True... A beacon in that situation only finds the body quicker :(

[idahobobb]

usually the companies don't give much of a deal if none at all they feel them to be properly priced---our ski shop tried this and we got em to like 250 i wanna say

[PWDR8S]

usually the companies don't give much of a deal if none at all they feel them to be properly priced---our ski shop tried this and we got em to like 250 i wanna say
Good point..... We should at least put up a sticky post in one of these sections with reviews and possibly where to purchase beacons. I know a few people whom wanted to get one, didn't have internet access and they asked me where to look. Not many places on the east coast carry them.

[DMC]

usually the companies don't give much of a deal if none at all they feel them to be properly priced---our ski shop tried this and we got em to like 250 i wanna say

They throw a sweet discount to patrollers...

[Huckasaurass]

They throw a sweet discount to patrollers...

Hey JOLLY J....hook us all up..they shouldnt even think of quesitoning why you need 100 or so of them right? Ha.....

Im, buying mine after Avi lvel I this winter...I've read great things like the rest about the DTS Tracker, seems to be the "easiest" to use.

Matt

[RR]

I think I will go a step further and add an AvalungII-pro to the kit....I'm just looking for the best way to assemble the buget increase required.....then of course, make the case w/Mrs. RR.....should go well, but what am I going to have to trade :eek:

[Huckasaurass]

I think I will go a step further and add an AvalungII-pro to the kit....I'm just looking for the best way to assemble the buget increase required.....then of course, make the case w/Mrs. RR.....should go well, but what am I going to have to trade :eek:

Ha buy first...EXPLAIN later..... ;)

Matt

[RR]

Ha buy first...EXPLAIN later..... ;)

MattTalk about risky bidniss....I can't stand up to the pressure.....you know that old saying about small packages....well dynamite comes in a brunette package too!

[PWDR8S]

I think I will go a step further and add an AvalungII-pro to the kit....I'm just looking for the best way to assemble the buget increase required.....then of course, make the case w/Mrs. RR.....should go well, but what am I going to have to trade :eek:
Good idea..... I have the Avalung Pro (the original) but find the vest is overkill... the II is much more useful and easier to wear. It should be an easy case to present to the Mrs. She already knows your adventurous spirit sooooo.... have her consider it as "insurance" of a sorts that you will be coming home to her. AND it's a one time purchase until upgrades are needed. http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[idahobobb]

yeah--avilung is an interesting idea--don't yet know anyone with one-- :)

[Huckasaurass]

Talk about risky bidniss....I can't stand up to the pressure.....you know that old saying about small packages....well dynamite comes in a brunette package too!

Obviously I don't condone this practice.....I was DEFINATELY joking on that one...

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned....

and thats that..

Matt

[PWDR8S]

yeah--avilung is an interesting idea--don't yet know anyone with one-- :) You do now..... but mind you, I havent' had to put it to real use. I'll try it next season with ppl burying me.

[mainwaring]

I think I will go a step further and add an AvalungII-pro to the kit....I'm just looking for the best way to assemble the buget increase required.....then of course, make the case w/Mrs. RR.....should go well, but what am I going to have to trade :eek:


hmmm...i wouldn't necessarily try to talk you out of the avalung, but i'm skeptical about its true value. this is spitballing, so take it with a grain of salt:

in european studies, the # of avalanche victim deaths due to trauma are > than those of burial, generally involving trauma from impact with trees, rocks or falls over cliffs/into crevasses.

a buried person's odds of being saved drop off precipitously after the first 30-45 min. (admittedly, when the avalung will begin to save your life).

most anecdotal evidence from avalanche victims shows that the odds of reacting to do much of anything, i.e. getting a tube in your mouth, trying to outrun the avy, trying to get your skis off, swim, etc., etc. tend to be low.

the first two parts are based on statistical data from several studies and some books on avalanche safety that i have read. i don't have the numbers in front of me, so i'm painting a soft picture (which could certainly be disputed, i'd counsel you to do some research of your own). the third is anecdotal; culled from avalanche victims, and is therefore, only as reliable as the victims themselves.

any safety gear that stacks the deck in your favor is welcome, but IMO, the avalung has a very low impact on those odds.

BD did have a first hand account of the avalung saving A person in an actual burial (on their website). but that was one account...a pretty low statistical sample, IMO.

[PWDR8S]

Agreed... I have thought much on this and pretty much came to the same conclusion..... damages to the body while IN the slide are usually the 1st killer however drawn out. Peace of mind might be the selling point on the Avalung.... whether utilising while in a slide is up to the individual's clarity of mind during the event.

I'm still on the fence of it's practicality even though I own one.

[RR]

hmmm...i wouldn't necessarily try to talk you out of the avalung, but i'm skeptical about its true value. ....any safety gear that stacks the deck in your favor is welcome, but IMO, the avalung has a very low impact on those odds.

BD did have a first hand account of the avalung saving A person in an actual burial (on their website). but that was one account...a pretty low statistical sample, IMO.Yup, that's all good reasoning...no real counter argument on most of the points...

This is so subjective it's worthless to anybody but me....here goes anyway: I have survived being hit by cars 6 times, Two actually under, one all the way over and three knockdowns. I have survived an aid climbing fall of 50 feet, complete with ledge impact. I used to hit trees while skiing and have been ko twice in fights...

...obviously the Universe has a love-hate relationship with me. Now that high angle skiing is back in my life.....I'd like to stay on the good side of that relationship a little while longer....it has the added benefit of being part of the gear I'd really like to have allong for ski-mountaineering on Shasta, climbing the Curtis Ridge (Rainier), and the Wickersham Wall (Denali)...my career highest aspirations.

[Huckasaurass]

This is so subjective it's worthless to anybody but me....here goes anyway: I have survived being hit by cars 6 times, Two actually under, one all the way over and three knockdowns.



Hint....Look both ways before crossing...HA kiddin ;)

Mattt

[PWDR8S]

Yup, that's all good reasoning...no real counter argument on most of the points...

This is so subjective it's worthless to anybody but me....here goes anyway: I have survived being hit by cars 6 times, Two actually under, one all the way over and three knockdowns. ...
I have hereby determined that cars are evidently bad for your health. Please avoid or only use i nmoderation. http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[skiyak777]

Anyone have an opinion on Avy airbags? I know Reudi Beglinger is making all his guests use them after their avy disaster at Selkirk Mountain Experience. Only problem is getting the cartridges to where you're going by plane. I think I'd rather be on top of the snow than breathing through a tube under the snow.

[mainwaring]

RR-the price isn't SO prohibitive and what's one more layer of protection? still, sometimes i think we can overdo, you know? i contemplate wearing body armor in the bc if i'll be spending time in rocky couloirs, but packspace and weight sometimes override the safety decision.

one friend in UT has the same original jacket model (as PWDR8S) and uses it religiously in the bc, though he's never needed to use it. i have used the avalung II on occasion, borrowed from another friend to give it a test drive. again, unless you actually get into the situation where you need it, it seems superfluous. it wasn't bulky or in the way, and the tube is a little annoying, but not prohibitive in any sense.

i was just passing on some of my thoughts, and some of the experiential advice from others in the field. but if you want it, have at it...and it sounds like you may be able to proform it, so that might make the financial component a no brainer.

[RR]

Anyone have an opinion on Avy airbags? I know Reudi Beglinger is making all his guests use them after their avy disaster at Selkirk Mountain Experience. Only problem is getting the cartridges to where you're going by plane. I think I'd rather be on top of the snow than breathing through a tube under the snow.say amen!

[mainwaring]

airbags do tend to have the most advantageous outcomes in european testing based on the fact that they allow the "person" to stay above the avalanche debris and not either be buried or avalanched a significant distance.

the price seems to be pretty prohibitive still, as does the airline restriction (though there is supposed to be a form that can be filled out to get special allowance, it also seems to be difficult to convince the TSA in the US).

also, the bag limits or adds weight you carry into the bc and ultimately, if you are traveling with a group that is using beacons you will still need beacon/shovel/probe.

however, if i were spending much time in avalanche terrain out west or in another significant avalanche area i would definitely invest in the technology.

[RR]

airbags do tend to have the most advantageous outcomes in european testing based on the fact that they allow the "person" to stay above the avalanche debris and not either be buried or avalanched a significant distance.

the price seems to be pretty prohibitive still, as does the airline restriction (though there is supposed to be a form that can be filled out to get special allowance, it also seems to be difficult to convince the TSA in the US).

also, the bag limits or adds weight you carry into the bc and ultimately, if you are traveling with a group that is using beacons you will still need beacon/shovel/probe.

however, if i were spending much time in avalanche terrain out west or in another significant avalanche area i would definitely invest in the technology."The world is not enough".....is that the gadget you guys are chatting about????

We meet John Cleese as the new "Q" (Quartermaster, in case you didn't know) and right after a delightful remark: "Ahh, the legendary 007 wit, at least, half of it!" The first thing Cleese does is wind up as the fall guy in Desmond Lwellyn's swan song: a demo of a jacket that forms a spherical airbag, trapping Cleese inside.....is that it?

edit: I found this: http://www.abssystem.com/ Sweet stuff, I like the Day and Free ride sizes.....but the price....

[mainwaring]

"The world is not enough".....is that the gadget you guys are chatting about????

We meet John Cleese as the new "Q" (Quartermaster, in case you didn't know) and right after a delightful remark: "Ahh, the legendary 007 wit, at least, half of it!" The first thing Cleese does is wind up as the fall guy in Desmond Lwellyn's swan song: a demo of a jacket that forms a spherical airbag, trapping Cleese inside.....is that it?

same idea, but only james bond could get that gadget ;)

the ABS airbag (they used to have them at life-link.com, but don't seem to carry them anymore):

http://www.avalanchetools.com/abs.htm

[RR]

same idea, but only james bond could get that gadget ;)Too bad the woman he got buried with was an mass murdering maniac!

[NtrentT]

Check this out, ABS AIRBAG System

http://www.abssystem.com/images/man_blows_bag.jpg


AIRBAGS (http://www.abssystem.com/)


Heres a movie domo'ing it
http://www.abssystem.com/videos/abs_notburried_ani.wmv

[DMC]

The victim
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20050522/NEWS/105210028

Very sad :(

Friends call slide victim noble
- For about 40 years, David Conway stoked a friendship among several kids-turned- adults from Massachusetts.

But on Sunday, the friends Conway had accumulated since seventh grade gathered to mourn his death at the home he designed and built.

"People talk about doing the right thing," longtime friend Pat Dardenne said. "David always did the right thing."

Conway, 53, died last week after he was swept into an avalanche on an open, in-bounds run at Arapahoe Basin. He is reportedly the first person killed by an in-bounds avalanche at a Colorado ski area in 30 years.

An avid outdoorsman - friends said he climbed 50 of Colorado's 54 14,000-foot peaks - and expert skier, Conway always took pains to assess risk, his friends said.

"That is why this is so unbelievable," Dardenne said of the freak avalanche. "It's like winning the lottery in the wrong way."

Conway's friends said that over the four decades they knew him, he was a man of unwavering character. He owned a construction company and was eager to help with a neighbor's plumbing in the middle of the night or to take three hours to inspect new construction at a friend's home.

And he was the consummate father to his two daughters.

"He was the kind of guy who, when you came downstairs in the morning, he'd hand you a cup of coffee," said Chris Visser, now of Florida.

[NtrentT]

Truly a tragic event.

[DMC]

Interesting perspective

http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20050523/NEWS/50523003
Avalanche experts study deadly in-bounds slide
ARAPAHOE BASIN — For Scott Toepfer, an avalanche forecaster for almost 30 years, Friday’s slide at Arapahoe Basin was a call to arms.

Toepfer’s job is to forecast snow conditions in hopes of preventing fatalities. Each day during the winter, the Colorado Avalanche Information Center — Toepfer’s employer — posts warnings on its phone system and by e-mail letting people know the possibilities for avalanches.

However, Friday’s slide, which killed a 53-year-old Boulder man, is a learning experience for everyone involved, Toepfer said.

Despite huge advances in technology and knowledge about snow in the past 30 years, the Breckenridge resident said it doesn’t mean forecasters will ever master the science.

“I know what the patrollers at Arapahoe Basin are going through, and it’s horrible,” he said. “From a scientist’s perspective, we’re probably the only ones not suffering.”

Toepfer, another member of the avalanche center and the A-Basin ski patrol surveyed the site on Sunday with probes and scanners, but found no more victims. They also looked at the fracture line profile — the layers of snow — and found a few unique occurrences that could have contributed to the avalanche.

The run faces north, which, according to this year’s patterns, are the type that have experienced slab avalanches in the northern mountains. Weak, sugary (and now wet) layers found near the ground are more abundant on north aspects, as well, Toepfer said.

[NtrentT]

interesting

[M@]

What's a "Scanner" ? Ultrasound device or something? Or is that what you call a transiever in scan/search mode?

M@

[DMC]

What's a "Scanner" ? Ultrasound device or something? Or is that what you call a transiever in scan/search mode?

M@

I think... but its usually called search mode...

[NtrentT]

What's a "Scanner" ? Ultrasound device or something? Or is that what you call a transiever in scan/search mode?

M@


If I were to guess, Id say yes...

But then again I know little of beacons

[Jolly J]

Hey JOLLY J....hook us all up..they shouldnt even think of quesitoning why you need 100 or so of them right? Ha.....

Im, buying mine after Avi lvel I this winter...I've read great things like the rest about the DTS Tracker, seems to be the "easiest" to use.

Matt

Yes I have a pro-deal at BCA, and no I'm not sharing. The DTS Tracker is quickly becoming the standard. I used one on my level I, nice device. I think I used an old Analog Pieps as well. It was blue and yellow in color. Nice device as well. But no where, and I repeat NO WHERE near as fast as the DTS Tracker.

[DMC]

Some pictures from a friend on the Killington board who was there the day Pali slid.

http://www.killingtonzone.com/albums/SheCanSki-ABasin-Album/IMG_0495.sized.jpg

A sad sign...
http://www.killingtonzone.com/albums/SheCanSki-ABasin-Album/IMG_0457.sized.jpg

[Jolly J]

****ty Day

[el-bagr]

http://www.telemarktips.com/FSabasinAvy.html

Article from ttips by Conway's friend, Louisa Morrissey.

RIP

[RR]

This has been a rough month....

[elwood]

http://www.telemarktips.com/FSabasinAvy.html

Article from ttips by Conway's friend, Louisa Morrissey.

RIP
Truly a sad story. I'm at a loss for words.

[Freebird]

You're on! I need to upgrade my tools and techniques for next season, and would enjoy sampling other strong beers in the process.

Steve

Me too. I'm in such a mood for sampling many many MANY strong beers right about now... We could burry the avy beacons in the pools of water we have everywhere...

[RR]

Me too. I'm in such a mood for sampling many many MANY strong beers right about now... We could burry the avy beacons in the pools of water we have everywhere...better....hide them in cases of beer!