It's Training time

[kfarrar]

Has anyone else started their training regimes?

After attempting last year I failed miserably to find the motivation. Luckly, I have found it and I have run 66 miles in just the last two weeks; completeing my longest run Saturday of 12 miles.

Just to keep myself on track, I have decided to run a half marathon in North Conway October 24. Are there any other TFTers who run to train? I would love some company in the race.

Kevin

[elwood]

I never stop training. There is no start.

Weight room, treadmill, outdoor jogging, hiking, rock cllimbing, and wakeboarding are all things I do in the summer to stay in shape for ski season. I try to work out 4-5 days a week, 3 of those being weight training - which is the most important thing to do. Strength training is the key to any good training regimen. You can't get by on cardio alone.

[kfarrar]

Good point. In past years, I have only done cardio. This year I have added Pilates to my routine. I try and do 30 minutes of it 3-4 days a week. It provides a killer workout for core muscels. I agree weight trianing would be helpful as well but I don't have easy access to a gym. I may buy some freeweights in the future to work some upperbody which I definately need.

[elwood]

Pilates is great for core strength. Core strength is great for skiing/snowboarding.

You don't need much to do weight training. Just a bench and a few 20-40lb. dumbells. That should suffice. Although the more equipment, the better as you can throw different exercises into the mix to confuse your muscles...

[RR]

Off beat training....

buy calf, lift calf ten times a day every day. Hand cary full-grown oxen to the oracle for....

oops wrong century...

skip the barbells and work on push-ups of several different angles. (Sure, the weights are great, but when space and funds are at a premium....body weight is a great set of wieghts)

Feet on floor, palms on floor (work up a good base here there's no hurry!)

Feet on the seat of a chair, palms on floor (just a few at first, concentrate of good form)

Feet on wall, body almost vertical, palms on floor (this all about balance and coordination. Working with a partner is way cool on this one...but don't get carried away work up to ten, very slowly, one of these is a really big deal!) .

Throw in crunches (straight and diagonal) and pull ups (this is one exercise that produces great results for many people when they do just a few reps, but do lot's of sets just a few of them should be palms-front) and keep running....watch out for heavy mileage....nothing kills a season like over-training or worse, over-use injuries.

Something I learned about my training (that was then, these days I work on the Woodford's and the 12oz curl): "ladder" workouts are really awesome, but it's really important to taper down quickly for the first 20-30 ladder sessions. That helps to minimize the risk of injury.

One last point: Train don't strain! The best way to achieve lasting results is to accustom the body to an increasing workload. Remember, it takes time. Spend that time pain free....every "tear-down" increases the chance of injury and replaces fibrils (small units of musle cells sharing a neuron) with fibroids (a bodily response to scar tissue, in this case , microtears at the firbril level). Fibroids do no work and take up space in the muscle, causing irritation and decreasing the muscle's ability to respond to stresses. That bull about no pain - no gain is just that, bull.

[PWDR8S]

Bahhh!.... Do some real weight training! I've been cutting,moving and stacking firewood for years, all year round and it keeps me in my fine physique. AND of course I use my rope swing to cool off at the end of a good logging session.:) For leg workouts..... stairs..... lots and lots of stairs... with and without weights. Make your workouts practical.... that way you get two things done at once! :D

I do give you kudos for keeping in shape considering the majority of Americans' idea of a workout is being a couch potato doing 12 oz curls and thumb action on the remote. :rolleyes: Ohhhh... I almost forgot THE most strenuous part of that regime.... getting up to graze in the refridge!

[kfarrar]

Bahhh!.... Do some real weight training! I've been cutting,moving and stacking firewood for years, all year round and it keeps me in my fine physique. AND of course I use my rope swing to cool off at the end of a good logging session.:) For leg workouts..... stairs..... lots and lots of stairs... with and without weights. Make your workouts practical.... that way you get two things done at once! :D

I do give you kudos for keeping in shape considering the majority of Americans' idea of a workout is being a couch potato doing 12 oz curls and thumb action on the remote. :rolleyes: Ohhhh... I almost forgot THE most strenuous part of that regime.... getting up to graze in the refridge!

I have to agree with you on the firewood. As a youngster it was mostly my responsilbilty to keep enough firewood cut and stacked to heat a three bedroom house entirely with wood. My dad cut up the logs but the rest was my duty. I actually learned to like the activitly of splitting wood. Great for the mind and the body.

Sometimes I think about living my life without TV. I'de love to give it up entirely, but I am not sure the rest of the family could adjust. It keeps the little ones distracted when Mom is doing housework. And my wife like to veg out infront it after chasing after the kids all day.

[M@]

As a kid me + the step bro had to split enough to heat a 5 bedroom house... learned how to drink kalua shots and we bonded very much around that pile of wood.

M@

[RR]

doh! a country boy will survive....if the wood's all stacked, the fences mended and the hay settled in....then you might need to do some non productive type exercise. Of course making and stacking splits for folks to buy will keep you ging just fine.

Just remember about the over-training/over-use bit. It's no good to train too hard and miss the season!

[kfarrar]

Yeah - Well I learned how to drink Southern Comfort and smoke cigarette butts :)

[Mumster]

KFarrar:
It's time for me to dial it up too. Aside from a daily exercise program and cruising around the Wissahickon on horseback, I've been roller blading and swimming laps twice a week this summer ....
YEECH..., I can't wait for Labor day when the pool closes so I can't do any more laps.
It's time to add in some serious sweat-inducing activities, but I'm not sure what. I don't want to give up the horses or blades, but don't have time for other activities unless I do. :(

[kfarrar]

KFarrar:
It's time for me to dial it up too. Aside from a daily exercise program and cruising around the Wissahickon on horseback, I've been roller blading and swimming laps twice a week this summer ....
YEECH..., I can't wait for Labor day when the pool closes so I can't do any more laps.
It's time to add in some serious sweat-inducing activities, but I'm not sure what. I don't want to give up the horses or blades, but don't have time for other activities unless I do. :(

I love roller blading. Have you ever gone with your hiking poles? If not, do a google search on roller polling. It ads a whole new dynamic to roller blading which is alot of fun. Their are several ways to mix up your stride and stroke as well. It's alot like cross country skiing and you can do it traditional or skate style. It really is awhole lot of fun. Unfortunately the roads around my house are not all that condusive to it. Going down hill is a blast, but quite dangerous! It takes quite a bit of nerve and guts to just let em run without putting on the brakes.

[Mumster]

KFarrar:
I love roller blading too - I just ordered a faster pair...can't wait until they arrive. The top of Camelback Mtn in the Poconos is a plateau with a paved track - it's about the best place in the universe to roller blade.

I'll check out roller polling. It sounds even better. :D

[kfarrar]

How long is the paved track?

[surfy]

Oh man, add me to the in-line list. I usually do about 40 miles 3X per week. The Erie Canal runs right by my office and the tow path is paved for about 50 miles in this area. The tow path is nice and flat, running alongside the canal and I can usually keep up with most of the bikers. I'm still skating on an older pair of Rollerblade Cool Blades but I've upgraded the wheels and bearings. ABEC 6 bearings and 78 mm, 82 durometer wheels. As long as I keep the bearings clean and lubed I can go with the best of them.

When I'm not on skates I usually hit the weights and an hour on the Stairmaster. Gawd I hate that machine.

[Castlerock]

t, the better as you can throw different exercises into the mix to confuse your muscles...

Speaking of confused muscles, how is the knee?

[Ispoiler]

I highly recommend the training program that Affix snow and I are working on. It is very simple, and anyone can enjoy it. Friday night, drink until you have no more beer. Saturday wake up early and go downhilling at Diablo freeride park all day. Saturday night, drink until you have no more beer then go out for 40 oz of malt liquor. Sunday, it's back to the freeride park for another day’s adventure.

A more serious answer, locking in to a training program can get stale very quickly. I try to stay active and do as many different types of workouts as possible. The fall finds me out on my XC bike more and I devote more time to stretching and yoga. I try to keep the intensity of my workouts down and increase the duration. I also try to surf and swim laps more because they work my abs and lower back in a manor more closely related to snowboarding.

[elwood]

Speaking of confused muscles, how is the knee?


The knee is actually feeling pretty good! I haven't done any damage to it wakeboarding this summer, so that is a good thing... I did pop something in my ankle last weekend hiking though. Just a little twister. I tell ya, I'm falling apart! I should be 100% come snow time though...

[Castlerock]

If it handles hiking, especially long downhills, you should be good to go....I was up Mansfield (Stowe side) two weekends ago, and got a nice look at the Hell Brook. Damn that is fine. I did find out that Stowe doesn't sell single trips on the Gondola (in winter) any more. Got any ideas on a cost effective solution to get up the Gondola?

[elwood]

I was looking over at Mansfield from Madonna this past weekend and got a good look at Hellbrook. As for a cost effective Gondola ride... not sure. They stopped selling the single ride passes two years ago, I think. I have a buddy who might be able to get us up for free though... I'll look into it.

[Castlerock]

Excellent....It is a wonder we didn't get arrested when they opened the Gondola door last time I did the Hell Brook.

[RR]

Speaking of Training...how about our September hike? Camel's Hump? When?

[BladeGirl]

Off beat training....

buy calf, lift calf ten times a day every day. Hand cary full-grown oxen to the oracle for....

oops wrong century...



I have a calf I lift every day. Two in fact! ;)

Elwood, I hope I don't need to be benching 20-40 lb dumbells! 12-15 is my limit.

-BG

[Ispoiler]

Speaking of Training...how about our September hike? Camel's Hump? When?

RR, pick a date, if I remember correctly the first two weekends in Sept were bad for a few people. My weekends are flexible until there is enough snow on the ground to ride.

[cliffhuxtable]

Has anyone else started their training regimes?

After attempting last year I failed miserably to find the motivation. Luckly, I have found it and I have run 66 miles in just the last two weeks; completeing my longest run Saturday of 12 miles.

Just to keep myself on track, I have decided to run a half marathon in North Conway October 24. Are there any other TFTers who run to train? I would love some company in the race.

Kevin


If I ran 12 mi. I think all cartilage in my knees would turn to a nice mash and all ligaments may shoots off like gumbands (see http://www.pittsburghese.com/).

While not up to 40 oz curls, I do raise 12 ozers....thats for the heart and since my knees sux I ride XC 1-4x/week. If it rains, I'll hit the stairmaster (love to hate) and the stationary bike, then I veg in front of the idiot box saving stored energy like a bear till winter.

[Rider.Steve]

If I ran 12 mi. I think all cartilage in my knees would turn to a nice mash and all ligaments may shoots off like gumbands

I gave up on high-impact recreation a long time ago (knee trouble), so running is out; I like to stay with rolling and sliding sports, including my bike-commuting, year-around hockey and summer roller blading, all of which have decent strength and flexibility benefits in addition to the cardio, and which seem like good cross-training for my riding.

Where I need to work for my winter B.C. is with my back/belly and shoulder/arm strength. Helps with heavier pack-climbing and the inevitable turtling experiences in the glades. I hate stomache crunches, but they work.

Steve

[Mumster]

How long is the paved track?

1 1/2 miles, scenic, with two adjacent up portions, and one hill down. I began earlier this summer as a low impact way to cross-train, but liked it so much I go every weekend to increase laps-per-hour.

Hey Surfy, look out, Skidude is headed back to Swain this December...

[cliffhuxtable]

Speaking of Training...how about our September hike? Camel's Hump? When?

There is a volunteer clean up of the woods at MRG Sept. 12 that w/e. How bout that w/e. If you help out it looks like you get a free voucher and MRG woods savvyness!

www.treeskier.com/volunteer/

[RR]

There is a volunteer clean up of the woods at MRG Sept. 12 that w/e. How bout that w/e. If you help out it looks like you get a free voucher and MRG woods savvyness!

www.treeskier.com/volunteer/
TFT can get people in on the 12th and the 26th. Both are Sundays.

Either Saturday would be good for hiking Camel's Hump, it's just up the road apiece...

[Affix Snow]

Weekend of the 18th of September would be best for me for Camel's HUMP.

If that works cool. If not cool.

Sept. 24-26 i got sucked into going to the big IRISH weekend in wildwood NJ. A full weekend of drinking till i have an accent. Should be fun.

[PWDR8S]

Let's start a new thread on the Camel Hump. I'm game for the 18th.

[cliffhuxtable]

Sept. 24-26 i got sucked into going to the big IRISH weekend in wildwood NJ. A full weekend of drinking till i have an accent. Should be fun.


Wildwood Irish w/e: Bring a football helmet and towel too to wipe off all the grease from them New Yakas.


Bike is fixed Friday.....we ride?

[Affix Snow]

Wildwood Irish w/e: Bring a football helmet and towel too to wipe off all the grease from them New Yakas.


Bike is fixed Friday.....we ride?

Yup. Should be interesting.

Bike is still in shop :cry: ...but if i get it back, friday good.