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VTrider
04-30-2000, 10:52 PM
I've been riding a board at Tuckermans religiously since the Spring of 1990. Much of what I consider 'words of wisdom' i've learned from others, but mostly through my own 'experience'. I'm a true believer in the concept of 'learn from your mistakes', but after the events I saw this weekend, I'm hoping that what I'm about to post will prevent some of these misfortunes.

http://timefortuckerman.com/ubb/eek.gif <--- This is what that snowboarder probably looked like when he saw his board breaking the sound barrier as it shot off over the headwall without him on it. Then to the amazement of me and a hundred others on the lunch rocks watched as the guy slid down out of control (mistake or act of desperation) only to luckily catch himself on a 'shrub' before catching impending 'hospital air' with his body.

Moral of this story: Hike with your board on your backpack. I know when I'm ascending a 50+ degree in variable snow conditions, the last thing I want to worry about is holding onto my board. Every season, I see boarders hiking up using their board like a big 'ice pick' - not too smart if you ask me, this only leaves your 'foot holds' support you, if you slip don't think your going to support your weight by digging your board in the snow - not only will you fall - that board will turn into a potentially deadly projectile. That poor guy, was still up over the headwall wondering how he was going to get down when I left at the end of the day. About an hour after this incident, from the top of Left Chute I heard the lunch rock crowd start yelling, I looked down only to see yet another board - this time 'torpedo-ing' straight down and into a group of people - the board never made it through the group - it must have been going over 60 mph. When I got down, I heard that a volunteer SkiPatrol woman was hit by it and received an arm injury - don't know the extent/how bad? Judging by what I saw she's lucky to still be in one piece.

Well that was just my .02c - Hopefully this will make some people think? I've noticed that the 'tips' section was 'empty', it would be nice to see more people's input here.

Have fun & Be safe....

-VTrider

think
04-05-2001, 07:31 PM
this was said by rbandito-i just wanted to put it in the tips section.

i saw a few posts with questions about crampons from snow boarders.... my advice---
get some now! i use grivel g10 wides made specifically for snowboard boots.
they work great and really make for safer climbing both for yourself and those near and below you.

i suggest using them in conjunction with collapsible poles for added stability. 4 legs are better than 2!

one more thing... a day pack with board carrying capability is key. it frees your hands and keeps your load in good balance close to your body. dakine makes a good one that allows you to carry your board either vertically or horizontally...why both?
if you're in crevasse country, a horizontally carried board may save you from a nasty below the surface experience.
remember the 3 stooges?--- Hey Moe! I can't get this ladder tru da door!!!

have fun and play safe.

think
04-05-2001, 09:05 PM
In case your new to hiking and riding in the backcountry here are some good articles to get you started at snowboarder online's archive. the links are numbered so they are easy to find.
http://www.twsnow.com/archives/site.cfm
36.Who Needs An Experienced Leader
37. Backcountry Food and Water
38. Backcountry Essentials
39. The Rules of Riding Out of Bounds
12. Besides the Basics–Additional Backcountry Tips
14. How Is Avalanche Forecasting Done

these archives also have great articles on tuning, waxing, etc. so check it out :0)

Valry
04-17-2001, 09:18 PM
I'm heading up this Sat. with my daughter who is a boarder. Just wondering if its better to wear snowboard boots to hike up in with crampons or hiking boots with crampons, and then to change into snowboarding boots?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

VTrider
04-20-2001, 12:08 PM
You will probably find that most people this time of year opt not to hike in snowboard boots. I did this one year long time ago and swore to never to it again, tired/sore feet. I still see people hiking up in crampons, but for the most part - hiking up the trail in the end of April you will notice most or in hiking boots. Have fun this year!

-VTrider