Forgiveness: friend or foe?

[Mumster]

I'm irritated over the concept of forgiveness :confused: , considered a desirable trait by SKI magazine. The general concept sounds nice, but, it seems synonymous with "lack of responsiveness". How is this desirable? Don't you feel more confident on a ski that holds on anything and responds seamlessly rather than one that doesn't notice?

They again rated my trusty P50 slaloms (now P60's) as the least forgiving ski on the planet. :( Being less powerful than most, their quickness and hold makes me feel safer than when I use any other ski...

Isn't a ski that helps get you out of a jam preferable to one that "forgives"?

[BladeGirl]

I am not sure I understand the concept (in reference to a ski, at least,) but I thought "forgiveness" was only a desirable trait for beginning and intermediate skiers. That is, they would not want a ski that responds to awkward or unintended actions. As such, it sounds like your P50s are probably perfect for you.
-BG

[SkiStooge]

I kinda feel that forgivness is what you have to ask for after you BREAK a ski and are ranting and raving very loudly in a very un-family-like manner. If it doesn't break and it holds the edge that you want it to hold, Mum, does it matter what a reviewer (who probably is skiing it out West or on other "soft" snow)really says? Ski what you like and are comfortable with. Or at least that is how I do it. OK, that's my .04 cents worth! Have fun, be safe. Al :skistooge:

[Jolly J]

I've never found ski tests to be all that imformative. Most are based on marketing hype. For example I skied a bunch of the Cross Max skis on demo day and at no time could I seem to load the ski up, I just couldn't get comfortable on them with speed. However the Cross Max always get good review's in ski mags as well as I know many people who ride them and think they are the awesome. Everybody is different and views a ski differently. Based on conditions, time of day and level of hungoverness (new word).

Just my .02 CAD

[Mumster]

BladeGirl:
As such, it sounds like your P50s are probably perfect for you.
-BG They are like an extension of my feet. :lips: Unfortunately, they sink in powder and don't bash slop well, so I need an off piste ski. But, since they are so perfect, no other ski compares. :(

Maybe someone can devise an automated midsection thickener - push a button and the ski turns into a midfat ski. :D Anyone mechanically inclined?

[Skilasnow]

Mumster:
Unfortunately, they sink in powder and don't bash slop well... Maybe someone can devise an automated midsection thickener - push a button and the ski turns into a midfat ski. D Anyone mechanically inclined? [/QB]I'll get right on that as soon as I finish with my TKAAD.

[Mumster]

:skilas: I was hoping you would volunteer ... :seqway:
What should we call it - the AM-ST?

[Castlerock]

Mumster....Go find a pair of Volkl G4s or in this years incarnation the Z24 AX4. The ski is unchanged over the past 3 years so you can probably find a deal. It rips the fresh or crud, and on the runout at the bottom of the mountain it will GS with the P50s