View Full Version : on sat how did the kid get off the cliff??
lotsarocks
04-02-2009, 07:21 AM
anyone see this guy. he was going for the large cliff in the middle and stopped to think about it. One minute turned to atleast a half hour before we left. He was in certainly a hairy situation with ice all around. So how did he get down? Did he leap, fall, slide or have to be rescued? Hope all went well for him. I know the feeling as i sometimes freak out over heights for me its the hike up though. thanks for any info.
PwdrHound
04-02-2009, 09:29 AM
Hmmmm.....another Western Masshole? We're a rare bread, I have to say! Where are you from?
Anyway, coming out of The Oakes, I dropped into Hillman's around 6 O'Clock. There were no rescue efforts underway....not sure if some dude high up on the headwall would warrant a rescue effort anyway. If you are stupid enough to get yourself up there without first noting a proper bail-route....well, have a nice fall cause I'm not going up to get you....well, maybe I would be but, I'll pretend to be a bad a$$.
Anyway, there was an interesting group being watched as I chilled on the porch after my epic day! Three guys....I believe they were all on snowboards, traversed all the way across the bowl, from what I am told, well under the headwall and then, with sunset approaching, decided to hike all the way back up and over the lip! One of their buddies was seriously hurting as he was lagging far behind. Onlookers just couldn't believe what we were seeing!!!
When I got back to Hermit Lake, I figured they were bailing. Nothing wrong with that, especially after the sun travels into the west and everything freezes! But everyone seemed pretty positive that the hikers were below the head wall before heading uphill again!
By the time they came down Hillman's, it was well past twilight! Now, you're never going to believe this but, there were two kids waiting on the porch!!!! Young kids, pre-teen! Of course, these guys never showed up at HoJo's.....freakin' fools! The kids just headed toward the Sherby once there "parents" were down.
I'm just wondering, what would these kids have done if the climbing party decided to do something stupid...oh wait, if, after they did something stupid, something terrible happened? Perhaps we have the wrong understanding of the term "Caretaker" as it relates to HoJo's...
skibumm100
04-02-2009, 10:01 AM
My son and I were up at HoJo's Saturday afternoon pretty late, around 5 PM, and I saw some guys climbing up the headwall. I thought that was too late to be heading up. PH, you were coming down Hillman's around 6 PM so I would guess it might have been starting to set up by then. IMO, when you're up there with your kids, you should be responsible enough to make sure nothing bad happens to you or your kids. At least as much as possible. It's supposed to be a positive experience. Seeing your parent cartwheeling down the mountain into a heap would tend to put a damper on things. :D
...I'm just wondering, what would these kids have done if the climbing party decided to do something stupid...oh wait, if, after they did something stupid, something terrible happened? Perhaps we have the wrong understanding of the term "Caretaker" as it relates to HoJo's...That's a couple of those famous $64,000 questions!
There is only one cure for stupidity....good thing the doctor was out and didn't prescribe it!
northeastsurf
04-02-2009, 10:22 AM
Going up for me is the crazy part, skiing down is fun, but game on. Anyone know how steep the steepest part of tucks head wall is? I am just wondering..
What degree is the steep pitch?
coreyb
04-02-2009, 12:01 PM
Going up for me is the crazy part, skiing down is fun, but game on. Anyone know how steep the steepest part of tucks head wall is? I am just wondering..
What degree is the steep pitch?
the absolute steepest part? well it's 90 degrees of course... any of the cliffs :)
here's a pretty comprehensive terrain guide for ya though...
http://www.tuckerman.org/tuckerman/tuckermanravineterrainguide.htm
PwdrHound
04-02-2009, 12:26 PM
the absolute steepest part? well it's 90 degrees of course... any of the cliffs :)
here's a pretty comprehensive terrain guide for ya though...
http://www.tuckerman.org/tuckerman/tuckermanravineterrainguide.htm
Hmmmmmm......I think we can find some over-hanging ice....if we tried :)
TuaGuy
04-02-2009, 05:59 PM
My son and I were up at HoJo's Saturday afternoon pretty late, around 5 PM, and I saw some guys climbing up the headwall. I thought that was too late to be heading up. PH, you were coming down Hillman's around 6 PM so I would guess it might have been starting to set up by then. IMO, when you're up there with your kids, you should be responsible enough to make sure nothing bad happens to you or your kids. At least as much as possible. It's supposed to be a positive experience. Seeing your parent cartwheeling down the mountain into a heap would tend to put a damper on things. :D
The Darwin Awards are given to those folks who find a more spectacular way to take themselves out of the genetic breeding pool. Seems Tuck's brings out some really deserving candidates 'bout this time every year. If it weren't for the kids, I'd say let nature take its course, and better for it. See you out there, but someplace else.
He sacked up and climbed out... Just like we've all done in our early days...
yuckster
04-02-2009, 06:44 PM
Unfortunately, you are automatically disqualified for a Darwin Award if you've had kids.
TuaGuy
04-02-2009, 09:02 PM
Unfortunately, you are automatically disqualified for a Darwin Award if you've had kids.
Fortunately, breeding patterns what they are, those who are deserving can still qualify even though their addition to the gene pool needs a dose of chlorine. My hopes are for the kids, that environment in spite of bad hereditory influence, wins out.
Man, I will not mention any specifics but it's a ruddy miracle I am typing this.
BladeGirl
04-03-2009, 09:04 AM
Man, I will not mention any specifics but it's a ruddy miracle I am typing this.
:confused:
VTtoCC
04-03-2009, 09:16 AM
anyone see this guy. he was going for the large cliff in the middle and stopped to think about it. One minute turned to atleast a half hour before we left. He was in certainly a hairy situation with ice all around. So how did he get down? Did he leap, fall, slide or have to be rescued? Hope all went well for him. I know the feeling as i sometimes freak out over heights for me its the hike up though. thanks for any info.
The dude you're talking about was up there for closer to an hour and a half, finally ended up half bailing/half sliding off to the right of where he had stood, like a statue, for all that time. He dismounted the ice bulge fakie, hip-checked, bounced up, and started ripping turns down the bowl, at which point we all realized he was on tele's. He was a solid skiier, just got in over his head and thought about it too much. The landings at that point were pretty consequence free, as demonstrated by the young huckster who dropped a 25 footer closer to the lip and ragdolled it. During one of his dozen or so flips, he actually double ejected from his gloves!
Man, I will not mention any specifics but it's a ruddy miracle I am typing this.:confused:
It just a matter of getting to Now in spite of all the stupid sh!t that went Before.
As VTtoCC just reported regarding the temporarily stymied skier, we have the capability to get into and out of things.....sometimes scaring the :crap: out of ourselves in the process :o
The dude you're talking about was up there for closer to an hour and a half, finally ended up half bailing/half sliding off to the right of where he had stood, like a statue, for all that time. He dismounted the ice bulge fakie, hip-checked, bounced up, and started ripping turns down the bowl, at which point we all realized he was on tele's. He was a solid skiier, just got in over his head and thought about it too much. The landings at that point were pretty consequence free, as demonstrated by the young huckster who dropped a 25 footer closer to the lip and ragdolled it. During one of his dozen or so flips, he actually double ejected from his gloves!Nice eye for detail!
Welcome home :D
yuckster
04-03-2009, 11:12 AM
The landings at that point were pretty consequence free, as demonstrated by the young huckster who dropped a 25 footer closer to the lip and ragdolled it.
Personally, I don't think "pretty consequence free" and "ragdoll" should be used in the same sentence. Ragdolling carries a lot of potential for spinal injury, lower leg injury, and such, even if the surfaces are soft, which in Tucks, they often aren't.
lotsarocks
04-04-2009, 09:27 AM
i am glad to hear he got off without too much issue. Sounds like he didn't get hurt. I certainly felt for him as he was a "statue" for quite awhile. One thing i did observe is the droves of people hiking the headwall @ or after 3. At 3 it was already setting up.
powderhound i am in belchertown originally frgom chicopee. being so close we should carpool next winter on some bc excursion as i don't have many friends that are into hiking to ride. fortunately for me i am hooked after doing thunderbolt and tux. I may get a splitboard or some randonee setup over the summer. I find touring to be as much fun as the runs down these days. Brad
tinnerdelux
04-06-2009, 04:26 AM
stayed there for the better part of an hour, then side slid lookers left, bounced across the two ice bulges,and teled down to just below lunch rocks.posted this before i read all other posts,sorry for the repeat.anybody see te guy get hit by the pair of hikeing boots that came rolling down off the lip?we were all wondering if the feet were still in them.odd sight
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